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If Michigan promotes from within....yeah, they'll lose all those upper classmen that are out of eligibility....but they won't have a mass exodus like we have.
Agree; they will give Moore the job, keep most of the staff and keep on truckin'
 
If Michigan promotes from within....yeah, they'll lose all those upper classmen that are out of eligibility....but they won't have a mass exodus like we have.
I’m not so sure, Harbough is a polarizing figure and a lot of recruits went there for him. If they hire within, they may keep some recruits, but there will still be some that look in the portal. I do not see a program like Michigan hiring within. They want to make a big splash and will go after a proven head coach before they promote a coordinator. We have lost 10 since Saban retired and I’d be surprised if they don’t lose similar numbers if he leaves. I think what makes it seem worse is the total of 28 in portal but 18 were already in there before Saban announced his retirement.
 
If Michigan promotes from within....yeah, they'll lose all those upper classmen that are out of eligibility....but they won't have a mass exodus like we have.
I'm sure they'll lose some in the portal, regardless, particularly on the defensive side. Say what you want about Harbaugh, but he's one of the best in the game today. Regardless of familiarity and whatnot, so to go from him, to a guy who has only been an interim head coach, is a clear downgrade, and if I'm thinking it, then some of the players will be thinking it.
 
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I think not everyone thinks of being "in the hunt" the same way.

The playoffs will be expanding to 12 teams, so making the playoffs could constitute being in the hunt, even if the odds aren't great.

There is a difference between "we could maybe win it" and "We should win it" and being "in the hunt" covers both categories of confidence.

With what Texas, Ohio State, and Georgia are returning and spending on their rosters, winning the national championship is going to be a tall order, but making the playoffs and having the opportunity to catch a few breaks like we had this past year is not out of the realm of possibility.
Oh I agree with the expanding playoff we have a legitimate shot at making a run at a playoff spot, I am just saying we don’t know enough about this team yet except we have great leaders on this team who are determined to prove Bama isn’t going anywhere. I am very optimistic about this team and coach. I am just being realistic in year one because how many first year coaches have ever won a title. 3 if I am not mistaken and last was Coker with Miami Hurricanes 2001 I think. The year before with Butch Davis they were number 2 in the country. Butch left for Browns in kind of a shocker to Miami alumni.
 
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I'm sure they'll lose some in the portal, regardless, particularly on the defensive side. Say what you want about Harbaugh, but he's one of the best in the game today. Regardless of familiarity and whatnot, so to go from him, to a guy who has only been an interim head coach, is a clear downgrade, and if I'm thinking it, then some of the players will be thinking it.

They also have the potential of sanctions coming from Big 10 and NCAA… I mean Harbaugh is even trying to get it put it in his contract that he can’t be fired from anything that comes from this investigation. If that is the feeling they will leave in droves in my opinion.
 
The big difference between Harbaugh leaving and Saban is that I think most the players at Michigan already thought he was going to leave right after the championship so good chance those that wanted to leave might already have. Saban was much more of a shocker I believe for most of the players do better chance we see more that left. Now it might depend who they bring in but I do think many of their players expected this and him moving on.
 
I don't think it was anywhere near as bad as it could have been regarding the timing. Saban was retiring sooner than later, and it just so happened it was this offseason. He retired soon enough for us to hire probably one of the top five coaches in the country. Not to mention that apparently, DeBoer was Byrne's first choice.

If you want to see "worst" timing, get ready to see Michigan when Harbaugh takes the Chargers job and leaves them in late January or early February JUST BEGINNING a coaching search. That's not counting having to deal with recruits entering the transfer portal. Saban gave us enough time to hire one of the top coaches, assemble a staff and get stability to begin preparing for 2024. Michigan is about to be a stage 5 crapshow.
Preach on brother! No truer words could have been spoken!!! Saban is the GOAT, he’s always thinking! RTR!!!
 

well, there are 5 starters, 6 if you count Amos since he started in dime.

Seth, Bond, Niblack, Proctor, Downs, Amos.

The bigger thing is also who was likely to be starting since we have a lot leaving for the NFL also.

Likely very likely Dez Ricks and Little in CB and nickel roles. Possible Preston. So let's settle on 8 guys that were slated as starters. That's a third of our projected starting lineup - that's not insignificant, especially when several of those guys backups also hit the road.
 
well, there are 5 starters, 6 if you count Amos since he started in dime.

Seth, Bond, Niblack, Proctor, Downs, Amos.

The bigger thing is also who was likely to be starting since we have a lot leaving for the NFL also.

Likely very likely Dez Ricks and Little in CB and nickel roles. Possible Preston. So let's settle on 8 guys that were slated as starters. That's a third of our projected starting lineup - that's not insignificant, especially when several of those guys backups also hit the road.
The biggest blow is at DB. Bond feels replaceable so does Niblack tbh. Proctor hurts but again I think replaceable.

But Amos, Downs, Dez Ricks, Little? The combination of all of them leaving is a big blow.
 
The biggest blow is at DB. Bond feels replaceable so does Niblack tbh. Proctor hurts but again I think replaceable.

But Amos, Downs, Dez Ricks, Little? The combination of all of them leaving is a big blow.

Don't forget Jake Pope. he was starting to flash a bit. He never would have bumped Downs, but with Downs gone now, he had as good a chance as anyone of grabbing a safety role, or in the new system possibly the nickel spot (if moore moved to S).
 
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I don't think it was anywhere near as bad as it could have been regarding the timing. Saban was retiring sooner than later, and it just so happened it was this offseason. He retired soon enough for us to hire probably one of the top five coaches in the country. Not to mention that apparently, DeBoer was Byrne's first choice.

If you want to see "worst" timing, get ready to see Michigan when Harbaugh takes the Chargers job and leaves them in late January or early February JUST BEGINNING a coaching search. That's not counting having to deal with recruits entering the transfer portal. Saban gave us enough time to hire one of the top coaches, assemble a staff and get stability to begin preparing for 2024. Michigan is about to be a stage 5 crapshow.
Well, I hope we don`t sit on our hands and fail to take advantage of said crapshow, if it occurs. Not in the mood to watch Texas, UGA, LSU, UTe, the barn take 5-10 each. That`s an exaggeration, I know ( but not a very big one, it seems! ).
 
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