Trump's Policies Part 5

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Wait......wasn't 1/6 done by Antifa???

And wasn't Trump so magnanimous when he pardoned Antifa?


Except for when it was a "normal tourist visit" (because you know, we ALL carry zip ties)

And didn't it show great Christian grace when Trump pardoned the tourists!!!


Folks, if you want to see a real biblical end to the whole thing, what happens is a bunch of 1/6 pardoned protestors lose their government bennies and storm the White House and depose Ceausescu. And before the FBI reads this and visits me, I'm explicitly not calling for it, I'm saying how it would end in the Old Testament.
If it was an Old Testament ending, the rabble would surround Lot's house, and he'd give up his own daughters to be raped and murdered for fear of being "inhospitable" to his angelic guests. (Genesis 19:6-8)

Believe me, when I heard this story recounted by my Baptist preacher in the pulpit when I was a teenager, I had a look of concern in my eyes. (Not to mention a healthy dose of Whiskey Tango Foxtrot).

But back to the point, once the angels were saved, the utter destruction would ensue. Like clockwork. :D
 
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I think everyone should watch this video.

It is about what it takes to completely manufacture a product in the USA and the challenges this country faces. I post it here because of Trump's desire to bring manufacturing back to the United States. Destin avoids the political discussion and focuses on the process, the scary and hopeful things he learned along the way.

I love Smarter Every Day and I enjoyed this video. Yes, it is 50 minutes long, but is well worth the watch.


 
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I've mentioned my German next door neighbor, who lived through Nazi Germany. We had many heated discussion about whether or not that phenomenon could happen here, her position being it could happen anywhere, given the right circumstances. Through the Nixon debacles, she said that Nixon wasn't Hitler nor even close. When Trump was elected the first time, she said that this (the US situation) was it, that Trump had a path to become Hitler. She listed many points of similarity, the main glaring difference being the chaos in Germany and the only chaos here being what Trump manufactured around himself. God bless her soul, she passed in 2018, so only saw the beginning. IDK what she would say now, but I have a pretty good idea...
 

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Hank Jr lost a nice contract after calling Obama Hitler. Too bad there’s no consistency with that sort of fallout.
Barack Obama was a flawed human being like every person. He was also the constitutionally elected President of the United States - MY President. And even though I disagreed with more of his stuff than I agreed, the people spoke twice in his elections.

And he wasn't Hitler.

And neither were JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Shrub, Trump 2016, or Biden. I'm not willing YET to say "Trump is doing the Hitler thing", but he sure seems to like to act like that's what he's doing. He's done more Hitlerian stuff than all the other names combined.

And I'll grant that my years in West Germany during the Cold War probably make me a helluva lot more sensitive to that issue than most Americans are.

As far as Hank Jr, well, the Dixie Chicks found out you can express an opinion but there may be fallout. (And btw - remember that Shrub DEFENDED their right to say it; Sensitive Baby would never do that if it was about him).
 

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It's almost like we could have learned something from "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" with both the exaggerated claims of racist campaigns AND the "this candidate reminds me of Hitler."

1948 - Harry Truman

And then there was - wow, can you believe this - "British observers" in 1964 seeing Adolph Hitler in the form of the modern-day "he was one of the good Republicans," Barry Goldwater....who, according to Senator Fulbright AT THE EXACT SAME TIME....was Stalin!

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In September 1968, Hubert Humphrey told all of us George Wallace was Hitler and Nixon wasn't, but he had people in his party like that (Robert Byrd was in the Senate at the time for those who love irony). But two months later, well, Humphrey changed his mind and now NIXON was Hitler.

And then there were the three times McGovern called Nixon "Hitler"....

And in 2016, Trump was also Hitler (except, of course, when Hillary was).

I'm willing to throw in and say I'm not pleased with where this whole thing is going, and the party of "law and order" is applying their "beliefs" with the same selectivity as the guy who decides who gets into the bar.

But making the same allegation for 80 years kind of deadens people to it, too.
I don't believe I or the commentator compared Trump to Hitler. What he described is the process by which an authoritarian regime would justify the use of emergency powers.
 
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I don't believe I or the commentator compared Trump to Hitler. What he described is the process by which an authoritarian regime would justify the use of emergency powers.
Just to be clear, I was not accusing YOU of doing that, but if I gave you that impression then I am sincerely sorry.

My larger point was that years of "X is a racist" or "X is Hitler" has sadly deadened us to this reality.
It has helped make it more real. It was always a possibility - our democracy only works with virtuous people. But for too many politicians (and their tribes, if you will), the end of winning the election or blowing up the opposition if they win has justified the means of saying people are what they (usually) are not.
 

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I think everyone should watch this video.

It is about what it takes to completely manufacture a product in the USA and the challenges this country faces. I post it here because of Trump's desire to bring manufacturing back to the United States. Destin avoids the political discussion and focuses on the process, the scary and hopeful things he learned along the way.

I love Smarter Every Day and I enjoyed this video. Yes, it is 50 minutes long, but is well worth the watch.


It is a very interesting video to watch. But the statement that Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to the USA is very questionable, since if he’d want to do that then he’d used targeted approach of carrot & stick, i.e. tariffs & subsidies specifically on manufacturing.
Instead, he is using broad tariffs in order to pay for his tax cuts.
 

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It is a very interesting video to watch. But the statement that Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to the USA is very questionable, since if he’d want to do that then he’d used targeted approach of carrot & stick, i.e. tariffs & subsidies specifically on manufacturing.
Instead, he is using broad tariffs in order to pay for his tax cuts.
It's just a smokescreen. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he knows by now that only the highest form of value-added manufacturing would pay off done onshore. The way he's going about it is the worst possible way. He knows. He's just lying. As usual...
 

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It is a very interesting video to watch. But the statement that Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to the USA is very questionable, since if he’d want to do that then he’d used targeted approach of carrot & stick, i.e. tariffs & subsidies specifically on manufacturing.
Instead, he is using broad tariffs in order to pay for his tax cuts.
That was a poorly worded thought on my part. I put the video in this thread because of the political discussions we have had on the subject earlier in the thread. Trump is trying to put pressure on some companies to manufacture products here. Like the iPhone, but it is not possible right now, which the video gets into the why.

I wasn't trying to spark more political debate, I just wanted people to see the video. I think it does a great job of exploring the difficulties of local manufacturing in today's world without getting into the politics.
 
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Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to the USA
And he's been told repeatedly that his 1950s mindset won't fly, people are not going to work in front of a blast furnace for the same pay they make sitting in an office with AC. My grandparents (both of them) worked at West Point Pepperell, a textile mill in Lanett, for over 40 years each. Their "it all looks the same housing" was part of their "pay," and they scrimped and scraped, one worked the am, one worked the pm, so they could save enough money to send all 3 of their kids to college "so you don't have to work in the mill." They got out with all manner of almost deafness, heart and stroke issues, and barely had enough to get by in their final years.

The idea that anyone wants to go back to anything like that is monumentally absurd.

And no, companies aren't going to just move everything here when all they have to do is wait until Trump is gone.

Trump himself would never dirty his hands working in manufacturing, but he thinks a bunch of people would.
 

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Our lack of desire and inability to reshore manufacturing might be the thing that prevents us from falling into old style autocracy. I have nothing to support this, but it seems it would be harder to install autocracy in a services technology based economy.

But that doesn't mean these modern fascists won't try.

And he's been told repeatedly that his 1950s mindset won't fly, people are not going to work in front of a blast furnace for the same pay they make sitting in an office with AC. My grandparents (both of them) worked at West Point Pepperell, a textile mill in Lanett, for over 40 years each. Their "it all looks the same housing" was part of their "pay," and they scrimped and scraped, one worked the am, one worked the pm, so they could save enough money to send all 3 of their kids to college "so you don't have to work in the mill." They got out with all manner of almost deafness, heart and stroke issues, and barely had enough to get by in their final years.

The idea that anyone wants to go back to anything like that is monumentally absurd.

And no, companies aren't going to just move everything here when all they have to do is wait until Trump is gone.

Trump himself would never dirty his hands working in manufacturing, but he thinks a bunch of people would.
 
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I believe I read that Hegseth said he had the Marines from a nearby base on standby for deployment to LA if needed - surely that’s prohibited by the Posse Comitatus act, right?

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Well Kennedy sent the 101 airborne into Ole Miss to ensure integration happened, and HW sent active duty military into LA to stop the Rodney King riots. I’m actually surprised Trump didn’t just make that leap from the start.

But in the Ole Miss case the governor of Mississippi was in direct violation of a federal order and wasn’t going to stop the mob that was massing outside of campus. So it more or less was necessary because the State government couldn’t be trusted to do their job.
 
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Pelosi: The Trump Administration’s escalation and provocation in California inflames tensions and incites violence. Now, the President of the United States said he would arrest a sitting American governor just for disagreeing with these actions.

This is a hallmark of authoritarianism on the road to tyranny – and all Americans should be shocked and appalled by the President’s blatant disregard for our Constitutional system.

The American people must be able to exercise their Constitutional right to lawfully and peacefully protest. It is essential that we shine a bright light on the unlawful tactics of the Trump Administration so that freedom of speech prevails.
 
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Well Kennedy sent the 101 airborne into Ole Miss to ensure integration happened, and HW sent active duty military into LA to stop the Rodney King riots. I’m actually surprised Trump didn’t just make that leap from the start.

But in the Ole Miss case the governor of Mississippi was in direct violation of a federal order and wasn’t going to stop the mob that was massing outside of campus. So it more or less was necessary because the State government couldn’t be trusted to do their job.
Do you think the state government of California can be trusted to do their job?
 
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