Weightroom Report
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Ironman is my gig and I'm a firm believer that endurance events are something you can do your entire life. The number of injuries you see in the multisport/endurance/straight-line sports is way less than you get for the lateral-movement/high-intensity/dynamic sports like football, basketball, etc. on the whole. Still, I'm sorry to hear about your experience.
I train with a fellow up here who's racked up in excess of 30 Ironman's. He's never done less than a couple a year since I've known him (9 years). Over that time neither of us has developed more than a mild tweak from training. Oh, and he turns 74 this year.
But back to football: That chart shows one aspect, but it doesn't cover the yearly stress/peak/recovery cycle. No athlete trains full speed year round because the body can't handle it. Only guys who wanna look good at the beach use the same training pattern year round. You essentially have to let the body have its time off and atrophy a little and (to some degree) start over each year in order to be able to peak during the season. The closer you are to a peak period then the more impact the training has on your seasonal performance. While last years training program may have a negative impact on this year, I don't think the affects will be insurmountable.
Just my unsolicited 2 cents.
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I was going to post a chart that displayed my theory, but I ate my red crayon.
Check back tomorrow.
Check back tomorrow.
when bryant was coach every player had to run a mile when they came back in the fall. they had to run 6:30 or quicker.
That's a good time for a football player to run. Too bad some of these guys nowadays can't even break 8 minutes.
How them shins today, Cuz?
In all honesty my cousin here actually was a very good CC runner.
Don't have any idea what that has to do with weight training. Just thought I needed to say hey to Nut!
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What time do they have to do it in?
Because our rugby team does 15-20 100 meter sprints during the course of a practice, and you won't confuse many of us for folks who are actually in shape...
i do it for the beer man, guinness is my recovery drink
my race this weekend ends at the top of mt. cheaha, should be fun, and should work up quite a thirst I'm guessing that saban wont allow beer as a motivation tool.
it blows that you have to deal with those injuries. oddly enough, lower back problems are what got me into long distance running (and are part of what keeps me from doing speedwork.)
on topic, i'm really hoping that the conditioning/weight room focus improves our fourth quarter performance. that was my biggest frustration over the past four years.
You make a pretty good point, but football players tend to stick to the same rough training pattern year round because they must stay conditioned year round. Like I stated in an earlier post, football players follow a cycle.
WINTER/SPRING: Starting in January, they are coming off the rigors of a season. They gradually start back lifting after the Holidays and this is the time when they start trying to get back the strength they lost from missing the time in the gym from the actual season. They will alternate between lifting days and cardio days usually. Most strength coaches want them on a tight schedule of lifting about 2 days in a row with the cardio mixed in on alternate days. There might be some cardio done on lifting days but not near as much as during an all cardio day. One day of rest is usually thrown in between every 2 days of lifting with the point being, guys don't grow in the gym, they grow when they rest.
SUMMER: This is the time when champions are made and this is the main reason strength coaches want the players on campus during the Summer so they can continue to birddog the players. They are still lifting but starting in June and really into July, the players really start upping the cardio workouts big time. I won't go into a great deal about actual exercises but it's alot of running (sprints and gassers). The skill players (DB's and WR's) are running route and coverage drills so they are getting plenty of running on top of their other cardio work. The reason for this up in cardio work is coaches don't want players coming into 2-A-Days in bad shape. Especially not Coach Saban.
FALL: This is the time when all the hard work over the Summer pays off. In August, every player should be just about at their peak. They should be in top physical condition from having poured their souls into their workouts over the Summer. Practice time and game prep dominates this time of year, so gym time starts to get scaled back. Players may only make it into the gym 2, maybe 3 times, a week. Gym time is usually in the wee early hours or between classes. It takes loads of motivation to continue lifting in the Fall because you are usually beat up and sore. Time management becomes a huge issue in the Fall as well because these kids aren't NFL'ers with this being their only job, they have class and studying to do on top of all the other things going on. All the players are trying to do in the Fall is maintain and pray they aren't fighting nasty injuries.
While endurance events do stress the connective tissue less, they also create repetitive use injuries. I sincerely believe that genetics play a significant role in our ability to train for long periods of time without injury. I know many people who have had to give up running because of arthritis in their knees. They had no family history of arthritis. Their doctors all blame their running.
I will run for as long as I can, but I seriously believe that my marathon days are behind me, and I am only 40 (on 3/19). My knees simply cannot take more than 30 miles per week anymore, and marathon training requires far more than that (if one wants to achieve a respectable time).
Still, 25 miles per week doesn't cause me too much discomfort, and it allows me to eat real food...
What years were you having to do that? Coach Bryant, would make backs and lineman run for different times.
RTR
i didnt have to do it. i do know that 6:30 was a standard to be met by the players at the start of fall practice. i dont recall the names but a few didnt make it, mostly linemen. late 70's till
Early, 70's it was six fourforties for time with 30 second break between each.
If, you did not make times you were not part of team photos that year and would get buried in the depth chart. Different times for backs and lineman. You, are right always about dozen who would not make it.
RTR
When I was in high school, we would sometimes run 110 yrd sprints after practice. I remember one time we ran 16 of them, and this was after a two hour practice in August. Other times we would run a mile around the football field, but the thing is that we had to run each lap under 1 minute, you got a minute break in between each lap. Those first two weren't that bad, but the last two were very tough, and if you didn't make it under a minute, off you would go on another full lap. We also ran sprints, suicides, and other things at different times.
The hardest thing I ever had to do was pull semi-truck tires across the entire football field. They would tie the tires to a rope and attach it to a harness and then we would strap the harness around us. We pulled the tires as they dragged across the ground behind us. It was pretty easy for the first 50 yards or so, but by the time you got to the endzone, you were barely able to breath, especially after doing this about 4 or 5 times in the summer heat.
However, by the time the season arrived and we started playing actual football games on Friday nights, there was no other team that was in better shape than us in the 4th quarter. We did lose three games simply because the other team either had alot more depth or better talent, but they were worn out at the end of the game and we were still ready to go another quarter or two.
The hardest thing I ever had to do was pull semi-truck tires across the entire football field. They would tie the tires to a rope and attach it to a harness and then we would strap the harness around us. We pulled the tires as they dragged across the ground behind us. It was pretty easy for the first 50 yards or so, but by the time you got to the endzone, you were barely able to breath, especially after doing this about 4 or 5 times in the summer heat.
However, by the time the season arrived and we started playing actual football games on Friday nights, there was no other team that was in better shape than us in the 4th quarter. We did lose three games simply because the other team either had alot more depth or better talent, but they were worn out at the end of the game and we were still ready to go another quarter or two.
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AJ, I have the Cherokee high arches also. And I have rigid orthotics also. But I also have an "inversion table" that I hang upside down from twice a day. "Poof!" No more back pain! I have the further complication that my spine is compressed by about 3".
We had to do this with the coaches on a makeshift sled. Man I still feel that burn.
an old roomie of mine had that table. I've considered, and may again now that you've said that. Probably find a good used one for cheap somewhere like Play It Again Sports, I would imagine. Thanks!
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