Bama Game Thread: OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD - Bama @ LSU...

[B1GTide]

After reading an article this morning what Nick Saban was saying I don't believe he's going to make any changes I really don't. I hope I'm wrong but I really don't see it coming.

He won't this season because he doesn't want to kill the recruiting season. Wait until after the kids sign.

 

[bamaga]

Saban said Alabama’s pair of two-point conversions in regulation, which both failed, were based on the chart that said both made sense in the situations. This tells me a lot. I really can't remember Coach saying anything like that through the years. This tells me he's not as hands on as he use to be. Or I could be wrong. That last two point conversion made no sense at all.

Most coaches pretty much use the same chart. Nick has used most of his coaching career, it’s nothing new. Sometimes he has gone away from it , though feeling the flow of the game. In that situation, I knew it was a mistake reading the game flow from my television and posted such on the game thread At the time

 

[bama1992#1]

I have no doubt that he still has that desire, I just feel like he was tired of the constant movement of coaches, thought he settled on some good coaches and that just hasn’t been the case.

I think he still has the desire . I get that he's tired of the movement of coaches but he kind of brought that on himself. And if that's what it takes to win a championship then he needs to go back to that but I'm just an old couch potato. So I don't know

 

[bama1992#1]

Most coaches pretty much use the same chart. Nick has used most of his coaching career, it’s nothing new. Sometimes he has gone away from it , though feeling the flow of the game. In that situation, I knew it was a mistake reading the game flow from my television and posted such on the game thread At the time

My point to what I said is he is not near his hands on if you once was. I don't think he made that call at all in the game I think he let his coaches make that call. And if so that tells me a lot.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Saban said Alabama’s pair of two-point conversions in regulation, which both failed, were based on the chart that said both made sense in the situations. This tells me a lot. I really can't remember Coach saying anything like that through the years. This tells me he's not as hands on as he use to be. Or I could be wrong. That last two point conversion made no sense at all.

The second 2 point conversion attempt was a very NFL thing to do. I know some of our fans don't watch the NFL, but I do and it was something you see in the NFL every week. Especially since they moved the PAT back and there is a higher probability of a miss or block.

 

[bama1992#1]

Most coaches pretty much use the same chart. Nick has used most of his coaching career, it’s nothing new. Sometimes he has gone away from it , though feeling the flow of the game. In that situation, I knew it was a mistake reading the game flow from my television and posted such on the game thread At the time

And truthfully he knew LSU was going to score a touchdown there he had to I think they got stopped one time in the whole second half and that was it.

 

[B1GTide]

My point to what I said is he is not near his hands on if you once was. I don't think he made that call at all in the game I think he let his coaches make that call. And if so that tells me a lot.

Saban makes the calls on 2 point conversions, and he did last night.

ETA - the decision, not the play call

 

[CB4]

I think we as fans always have a tendency to react differently when we lose tight, close games. Simply because the margin for error is so slight. A play here or there, a penalty or not, a blown assignment are often the difference in the game. Example was last year. It was easier for me to take the loss to UGA in the title game because, well, we were two comparably talented teams and they made plays. We didn’t. The opposite had be true in the SEC title game. The harder loss to swallow last year was TAMU. We had almost every advantage in that game (except playing in College Station) and lost.
The common denominator these last two years (TAMU, UT, LSU) have been our mistakes being made by experienced players and our inability to simply “put people away”. Our experienced secondary getting torched by Hyatt for over 200 yards. Last night, our “experienced” LB’s out of position or playing the wrong assignments. Last night our first four possessions in the red zone: Int, FG, FG, FG. Think things go differently if we score on that first drive and convert a couple of these FGs into touchdowns? I certainly do.
It is easier for me to swallow getting “beat”. Tip your hat and say “I’ll get you next time”.“Losing” like we have this year and last year is a hard pill to swallow.

 

[TexasBama]

I don't.

With all due respect to the guy who is probably the best all-around QB we've ever had, he's part of the problem. It just gets lost in the fact he's one of the few things more often than not that has worked.

He's afraid to be hit - and nobody needs to give me any "but he got hurt earlier this year" because he was doing this last year, too.

And if I can see it, I'm pretty sure opposing coaches can see it, too.

Just a guess, but Bryce may have to have surgery. He’s gone after this year. With a bowl game in Tampa the likely end game, what do you do in his shoes?

 

[bamamc1]

Maybe I just need a break from the site. Maybe I’m just a bit emotional right now, especially living here in South Louisiana.

But to lose 2 games on two Plays regardless of how/why, and to have “fans” calling for Saban to step down is one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen.

We mock the fools in Lee County for far less. Coach Bryant had love and admiration until the day he died (and even beyond). But our spoiled brat fan base can’t deal with a two-loss team? So we push out the 71 year old who is about to sign the greatest recruiting class maybe ever?

Navigating new recruiting rules. A portal. And other changes. A Coach who played for a NC less than 11 months ago?

Who in the Hell do we think we are? we don’t deserve him, apparently

Very sad day in the Bama Nation. Embarrassing

Thank you on so many levels for this post. I certainly hope people close to CNS or we’re recruiting didn’t read the crap being posted last night. My goodness. RTR

 

[Cruloc]

I'll say this I'm really worried about next season it could really really be rough. Probably this is a four loss team this year and if everything stays the same coaching wise. And I don't think there's a quarterback on the roster right now they can dig you out of some of these holes the way young does in games. I really believe he's the only reason we beat a couple teams this season because of his Houdini Acts. Jalen Mill road is a great talent but him being second string scares me about what's behind him at this point and I know they're young don't get me wrong.

Next year could be Sabans version of Bryant's 1969 and 70.

 

[bamaga]

IMHO one of 3 things going to happen

1. Saban is going to make changes this off-season and start a 3rd stage of the dynasty

2. Saban is going to retire this year or next

3. This is the least likely IMO. Saban sticks around for 3-5 years but doesn't make significant changes and we look like Oklahoma under Riley/Stoops. We still make the playoffs at times but National Championships are done

You know, that presser yesterday made me think #2 is a distinct possibility that I never imagined before the game.

Yes, and just four years ago it was some guy named Dabo, right?

He was going to eat Saban like pork sausage and have a satisfying bowel movement afterwards, right?
Amazingly, his team looked far worse against a far worse team than LSU last night.

Comets rise and fall all around and stars fall on Alabama, too.

But there's legit criticism (I'll have some later - I want to watch the thread) and insanity, and it's like saying that because Tom Brady had a bad game, he's no longer the GOAT QB (he is, btw, and I can't stand the guy).

Yep, and people forget all that . The dynasty is dead, long live Miles, I mean Dabo , I mean Riley, I Mean Day, I mean Kirby…

 

[Krymsonman]

Maybe I just need a break from the site. Maybe I’m just a bit emotional right now, especially living here in South Louisiana.

But to lose 2 games on two Plays regardless of how/why, and to have “fans” calling for Saban to step down is one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen.

We mock the fools in Lee County for far less. Coach Bryant had love and admiration until the day he died (and even beyond). But our spoiled brat fan base can’t deal with a two-loss team? So we push out the 71 year old who is about to sign the greatest recruiting class maybe ever?

Navigating new recruiting rules. A portal. And other changes. A Coach who played for a NC less than 11 months ago?

Who in the Hell do we think we are? we don’t deserve him, apparently

Very sad day in the Bama Nation. Embarrassing

Don't leave Cajun, I've got your back. My BAMA flag is still flying in the front yard this morning. I trust CNS will fix what needs fixing.

 

[bama1992#1]

He won't this season because he doesn't want to kill the recruiting season. Wait until after the kids sign.

The way it's set up now these kids can still leave so to me that would not make a whole lot of sense but I do understand what you're saying. Get them there make a change and hopefully they stay.

 

[bama1992#1]

I think we as fans always have a tendency to react differently when we lose tight, close games. Simply because the margin for error is so slight. A play here or there, a penalty or not, a blown assignment are often the difference in the game. Example was last year. It was easier for me to take the loss to UGA in the title game because, well, we were two comparably talented teams and they made plays. We didn’t. The opposite had be true in the SEC title game. The harder loss to swallow last year was TAMU. We had almost every advantage in that game (except playing in College Station) and lost.
The common denominator these last two years (TAMU, UT, LSU) have been our mistakes being made by experienced players and our inability to simply “put people away”. Our experienced secondary getting torched by Hyatt for over 200 yards. Last night, our “experienced” LB’s out of position or playing the wrong assignments. Last night our first four possessions in the red zone: Int, FG, FG, FG. Think things go differently if we score on that first drive and convert a couple of these FGs into touchdowns? I certainly do.
It is easier for me to swallow getting “beat”. Tip your hat and say “I’ll get you next time”.“Losing” like we have this year and last year is a hard pill to swallow.

The mistakes this team makes in games all through the game is bad but toward the end of games if the other team has the ball I personally feel there will be a pass interference call or some kind of big call to keep their drive going. It happens every tight game or it seems to. So in my head I already know that what to expect. The last two years especially and truthfully three of the last four years this team has not gotten better as the year goes on it's gotten worse. Normally after 2 or 3 games in you've either got it right or you haven't.

 

[Krymsonman]

So I turned it off right as they made the 2 point conv. Did who storm the field and tear down the goalposts, etc? I would hope they wouldn't as they were legit not to long ago.

They did storm the field, but I'm not sure about the goal posts. LSU is kind of protective of them, plus they are the double post goal posts versus the normal single post. Don't know if the fans got those.

 

[bamaga]

Don't leave Cajun, I've got your back. My BAMA flag is still flying in the front yard this morning. I trust CNS will fix what needs fixing.

Im with you. The program needs fixing? Yes. But the program doesn’t need a grenade.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

He is now, but he was not before his injury. Before that game he stood in the pocket and took some major hits when necessary.

He won't run downfield. Ever.

That's what I mean.

Even last year, he stutter steps to not run.

I'll grant I like that he's not reckless (Manziel), but he's sometimes too cautious - he could bolt through the middle for the end zone and instead throws to a tight window to a covered receiver...with mixed results.

And I'm not on his case - we'd be in far worse shape without him.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I disagree. This post sounds exactly like spoiled to me.

We as a base can act like somehow we lost something last night. we didn’t. We are consumers. We are acting like Led Zeppelin fans when Coda came out, Star Wars fans when Phantom Menace came out.

the world doesn’t always give us what we want, and how we handle it says a lot.

we didn’t get what we want, and now we are throwing a tantrum.

Taking into consideration the amount of talent we have accumulated, fans wanting their team to be a part of the national championship race isn't spoiled. It would be one thing if we didn't have the talent and getting upset because we're not in the race. But when you have the talent we have accumulated and are getting beat by teams that are rebuilding (LSU) and barely beating teams that shouldn't be within 17 points of you, getting upset is normal and expected. Competitive people want to win all the time, and sports were invented for competitive people. Most fans who take the time to watch their favorite team don't do so in hopes their team just has a good showing and winning is just a bonus.

Also, who on this board is calling for Saban to retire? I may have missed it, but you referred to that in one of your earlier posts and I do not remember seeing anyone calling for Saban to retire. The main thing I've seen that is anywhere close to that is if Saban doesn't make changes at the OC and DC spots he's more than likely done winning titles at Alabama. Which is probably correct. Saban is the GOAT, and for the most part, has made good hires, but he has whiffed on Gold*ng and O'Brien and that is why we're out of the championship race in early November.

 

[CrimsonTheory]

2 L's by a combine 4 points all they while playing the most undiscipline brand of football under Saban.

So if you play like you practice, what does that say about this year's team practice habits?