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Bama is in over FSU because..,,

selmaborntidefan said:
If head to head doesn't count then they can put in Georgia over us...and what would the very first words be from every fan here?

Also, that ranking is from when OU lost to Kansas, whom Texas already blew out, meaning you have a circle of head to head to solve, not a one-off.

The situations are only similar if someone thinks losing on the last play of the game to a team that lost to a team you blew out is the same as losing at home by 10.
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ReturnToGlory said:
With Heather and Dan Wolken saying Bama should be in, I'm wondering if the apocalypse is nigh.
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It is.
 
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I'd put Alabama's chance at 50/50.

I really wanted Oregon to win (just one more TD) and I think that would have given Alabama a much higher chance. Then the committee basically only has one sure thing (Michigan) and they then had to really compare the resumes of FSU, Oregon, Alabama, and Texas for those final three slots.

As it is, they have two spots and three teams and because of their unwavering commitment to early season head to head, there seems like only one likely scenario where Alabama gets in, and that's over FSU.

There will still be a Texas v. Alabama discussion though, and there's kind of a long shot (long shot in part because of how well Texas played against an over matched opponent) possibility that Alabama get in over Texas due to avoiding a tie breaker.

So most realistic scenario where Alabama gets in would be:
1: Michigan
2: Washington
3: Texas
4: Alabama

FSU gets left out due to a combination of weak SoS and losing their starting QB (it is in writing that the committee can consider injuries).

The kind of long shot scenario goes like this:
1: Michigan
2: Washington
3: FSU
4: Alabama
5: Georgia
6: Texas

In this scenario the committee avoids the tiebreaker between Alabama and Texas by saying they think Georgia is better than Texas.

Then of course there's the lazy, stupid committee does stupid things scenario in which despite being wrong about so much, they basically try to keep the same order they've had the whole time:
1: Michigan
2: Washington
3: FSU
4: Texas

We'll see... but I hate the committee and I'm pretty sure Alabama will be top 4 in the polls and top 4 in the BCS and if the committee keeps them out, they'll be basically the only group of people that did that.
 
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If they put FSU in it’s because they want to not because they are the most deserving or one of the four best. It also makes the four team playoff selection over the past two seasons an absolute joke. They have no analytics that say FSU is among the four best. No other reasonable student of the game would say so. To leave out the champion of the strongest conference in the nation (or even the runner up) is stating a bias without reason. FSU beat a horrible Louisville…well so did Kentucky…any of the top four teams in the SEC would decimate the FSU team that is on the field now.

But go ahead committee do your worst you did last year by taking a non conference winner who made a huge joke of the National title game. Michigan would have beat them in the first round but figuring no one in their right mind would make TCU as a playoff team they didn’t even trouble themselves to steal their offensive and defensive signals.

The committee members are made up of a bunch of pencil pushers who haven’t played a down of football in their lives (excluding the three who have) and have come up through the participation trophy generation. They could be wearing dunce caps for the rest of their lives based on an incompetent decision - or you can act like men and make a sound reasoned decision based upon facts.
 
KrAzY3 said:
I'd put Alabama's chance at 50/50.

I really wanted Oregon to win (just one more TD) and I think that would have given Alabama a much higher chance. Then the committee basically only has one sure thing (Michigan) and they then had to really compare the resumes of FSU, Oregon, Alabama, and Texas for those final three slots.

As it is, they have two spots and three teams and because of their unwavering commitment to early season head to head, there seems like only one likely scenario where Alabama gets in, and that's over FSU.

There will still be a Texas v. Alabama discussion though, and there's kind of a long shot (long shot in part because of how well Texas played against an over matched opponent) possibility that Alabama get in over Texas due to avoiding a tie breaker.

So most realistic scenario where Alabama gets in would be:
1: Michigan
2: Washington
3: Texas
4: Alabama

FSU gets left out due to a combination of weak SoS and losing their starting QB (it is in writing that the committee can consider injuries).

The kind of long shot scenario goes like this:
1: Michigan
2: Washington
3: FSU
4: Alabama
5: Georgia
6: Texas

In this scenario the committee avoids the tiebreaker between Alabama and Texas by saying they think Georgia is better than Texas.

Then of course there's the lazy, stupid committee does stupid things scenario in which despite being wrong about so much, they basically try to keep the same order they've had the whole time:
1: Michigan
2: Washington
3: FSU
4: Texas

We'll see... but I hate the committee and I'm pretty sure Alabama will be top 4 in the polls and top 4 in the BCS and if the committee keeps them out, they'll be basically the only group of people that did that.
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Sadly, I think they do the stupid thing. You would think they would learn after TCU. But they'll be "safe."
 
I definitely thought we needed an upset this weekend to get in, and I’ve thought that for weeks. Listening to the talking heads and the more I’ve thought about, I think we get in over FSU. I’m not hearing anyone really campaign for FSU, not as much for Alabama. That doesn’t mean that’s what the committee will do, but it’s typically a leading indicator. So my guess is we get in and it might even be at #3 because I doubt the committee cares about head-to-head for seeding as long as Texas gets in.

As an aside, I think FSU would be in if we weren’t expanding the playoff next year. Leaving FSU out might send them packing for a new conference without expansion.
 
Major injuries to teams has ALWAYS been a known component the committee has had at their disposal and rightfully so. That FSU team with their 2nd or 3rd string QB isn't playing in the ACC title game last night and anybody who can fog a mirror can see that. Is it unfortunate? CERTAINLY, but is an unfortunate reality of life and to reward a team because of what a QB did who is no longer playing and punishing a team who has their major components intact is shameful. The QB is one of the foundational positions on the field, just like the OL. With the QB spot ONE PLAYER can mean the difference between 9-3 and 12-0. If they played an entire season with the two QBs they're using now they are 9-3, AT BEST and no way in hell beat LSU.
 
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This committee has screwed themselves by stating they select the four "best" teams and that "deserving" isn't even in their lexicon.

By that statement alone, FSU can't be put in the CFP.

They've kept undefeated teams above 1 loss teams in every ranking, they value record more. Do they contradict what they've said in previous weeks and rank two 1 loss teams ahead of FSU?

What I think they should do:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Bama
5. Georgia
6. FSU

What I think they will do:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. FSU
4. Texas
5. Bama
6. Georgia
 
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i'm not following him on Twitter currently, but knowing how Danny "Punch Face" Kanell hates the SEC, is an FSU homer, and likes to shoot his mouth off about head to head, everyone with a Twitter account needs to load up his page and point out that if head to head results matter he has an illegitimate national championship ring from 1993.

lf head to head matters then Danny Cannell shouldn't have a national championship ring. The end.

I have no problem with the result that year, but just as I pointed out here I have a major problem with two-faced hypocrisy.
 
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BamaFlum said:
The committees on rules would allow FSU to get left out. Look at the fifth item:
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Yeah, it's been a known factor for years. Last night's ACC title game legitimized that available option. At one point last night FSU went three and out 7 times and had less than 80 yards offense deep into the second half. I hate it for FSU and their players, but again, they are now a vehicle running with three regular tires and a donut tire, which blows out after 50 miles. For whatever integrity the CFP has, you can't watch that reality last night and still put them in. No way
 
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I think I have the "gametime rankings" data correct (current rankings are as of yesterday. Obviously, these will change today). If so, there is no comparison between what we've done and what FSU supposedly has done. They won all their games. They pretty much played nobody all season.

Also, if it's just about winning games, then Liberty deserves to be in. Frankly, their opponent list isn't much different than FSU's. Sorry not sorry.

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First, congrats on the SEC championship! Great game. Your team really showed resolve and improved over the season.

I believe you deserve a playoff spot. If the committee really wants to end the 4 team playoff era memorably, they will do the right thing. No one, outside of the FSU base, wants to see them face Michigan or Washington with their current situation.

If FSU is in, they have to be #3. There is no justification for putting one loss Texas over them and not Alabama. If they do, then they think FSU would beat Bama, and that’s just not happening.

Incidentally, in next years format, I believe we are the first team that would miss the cut. Far less dramatic.

Good luck!
 
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LSUgrad2BamaDad said:
First, congrats on the SEC championship! Great game. Your team really showed resolve and improved over the season.

I believe you deserve a playoff spot. If the committee really wants to end the 4 team playoff era memorably, they will do the right thing. No one, outside of the FSU base, wants to see them face Michigan or Washington with their current situation.

If FSU is in, they have to be #3. There is no justification for putting one loss Texas over them and not Alabama. If they do, then they think FSU would beat Bama, and that’s just not happening.

Incidentally, in next years format, I believe we are the first team that would miss the cut. Far less dramatic.

Good luck!
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Appreciate it man!!

I hope Jayden wins the Heisman because he deserves it and I've been saying so for weeks.
 
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