Alabama QBs in 2024

[81usaf92]

Milroe kind of seems to have a hitch in his throwing. He looks quick then if it is covered he isn't sure where to go.

I think a huge part is that he desperately wants to prove he is a NFL quarterback instead of just playing his game. The truth is that he is a one read and go quarterback that is trying to trick people into thinking he is Tom Brady. The problem is that he doesn’t read defenses quick enough to do that and it would be far more beneficial to him to just read one guy and decide whether to run or pass based on only that. He gets in far too much trouble standing in the pocket.

 

[Con]

I think a huge part is that he desperately wants to prove he is a NFL quarterback instead of just playing his game. The truth is that he is a one read and go quarterback that is trying to trick people into thinking he is Tom Brady. The problem is that he doesn’t read defenses quick enough to do that and it would be far more beneficial to him to just read one guy and decide whether to run or pass based on only that. He gets in far too much trouble standing in the pocket.

Our defense looks like it is covering the quick routes and he just won't take off. Maybe they are instructing him in practice to move through his progressions instead of running. #10 looks the part but he seems to be dealing with the speed of the defense right now. I think DeBoer will have them all ready by the fall.

 

[colbysullivan]

I don't know why, but I was thinking Mack was a southpaw.

Penix

 

[CrimsonTitles]

I think a huge part is that he desperately wants to prove he is a NFL quarterback instead of just playing his game. The truth is that he is a one read and go quarterback that is trying to trick people into thinking he is Tom Brady. The problem is that he doesn’t read defenses quick enough to do that and it would be far more beneficial to him to just read one guy and decide whether to run or pass based on only that. He gets in far too much trouble standing in the pocket.

The irony is that he probably doesn't have to. If he just leans into who he is, he's gonna be drafted, and probably in the first round, because the current NFL is obsessed with dual threat QBs, almost to a fault. If he played his game, leaned into his strengths and didn't try to be something he isn't, then he'd be in very good shape for the draft.

 

[81usaf92]

The irony is that he probably doesn't have to. If he just leans into who he is, he's gonna be drafted, and probably in the first round, because the current NFL is obsessed with dual threat QBs, almost to a fault. If he played his game, leaned into his strengths and didn't try to be something he isn't, then he'd be in very good shape for the draft.

Well the problem is that the NFL doesn’t really have many mobile quarterbacks like that, and it kinda scares guys into trying to suddenly change into something they are not. An additional problem for Milroe is that he is more of a downhill runner and not a shifty one like Lamar. He really is a running back that can throw a deep ball even more so than Jalen Hurts or Blake Sims.

He will probably improve some, but this vast change that everyone is envisioning I’m just entirely sold on. It’s just so difficult to make that kinda change when all your life you have been one way.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I think a huge part is that he desperately wants to prove he is a NFL quarterback instead of just playing his game. The truth is that he is a one read and go quarterback that is trying to trick people into thinking he is Tom Brady. The problem is that he doesn’t read defenses quick enough to do that and it would be far more beneficial to him to just read one guy and decide whether to run or pass based on only that. He gets in far too much trouble standing in the pocket.

I'm haunted by Bond's remarks on his transfer, saying he wanted to play with a real drop-back QB...

 

[irvingtontide]

I'm haunted by Bond's remarks on his transfer, saying he wanted to play with a real drop-back QB...

Yea have to imagine it played a role with niblack also. WRs can get in their feelings if they get open a lot but are not being targeted.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I'm haunted by Bond's remarks on his transfer, saying he wanted to play with a real drop-back QB...

He "aint" wrong...

 

[BearFoot]

FTR, I'm a supporter of who can run CKD's offense the best.

But do you really think anybody on this board wants TS to start more than he does???

No…..but given the optics around here lately, there seems to be a few on this board who “don’t want Jalen Milroe to be the starter” more than Ty Simpson “wants to be the starter.”

 

[81usaf92]

No…..but given the optics around here lately, there seems to be a few on this board who “don’t want Jalen Milroe to be the starter” more than Ty Simpson “wants to be the starter.”

I honestly don’t care who wins between either. They both have farted around for 3 years trying to see who is the more deserving bench player to get a promotion instead of taking the bull by the horns and settled the matter.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

No…..but given the optics around here lately, there seems to be a few on this board who “don’t want Jalen Milroe to be the starter” more than Ty Simpson “wants to be the starter.”

Because many or maybe several don't believe he can or will fix his issues that caused our best returning WR to transfer. They saw enough last season to makeup their minds. I don't think it's anything beyond that reason.

 

[81usaf92]

Because many or maybe several don't believe he can or will fix his issues that caused our best returning WR to transfer. They saw enough last season to makeup their minds. I don't think it's anything beyond that reason.

TBF I don’t think Bonds is being 100% honest either. A good part of it I think is money from Texas, but I do think there is a lot of truth in his critique of Milroe as well. I think had Saban stuck out another year then we may have had a bigger exodus than what we had if Milroe was just given the starter role.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

TBF I don’t think Bonds is being 100% honest either. A good part of it I think is money from Texas, but I do think there is a lot of truth in his critique of Milroe as well. I think had Saban stuck out another year then we may have had a bigger exodus than what we had if Milroe was just given the starter role.

No doubt the money made it a no brainer to leave. However, his frustration with Milroe was evident and imo, played the biggest role in him leaving.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

No doubt the money made it a no brainer to leave. However, his frustration with Milroe was evident and imo, played the biggest role in him leaving.

Star WR's do not like running their butts off all game getting open and not getting ball.

It's true that most think they are always open even when they aren't but sometimes they are right.

We had demonstratively upset WR's in 2017 too. I mean by that Miss St game you could tell they were VERY frustrated.

If we had NIL and instant transfers back then and Tua never is given his chance then we probably lose Jeudy, Waddle, Smitty, and Ruggs after losing to UGA.

Calvin was already leaving for the NFL and he looked maybe the most upset because he was trying to raise his draft stock and shaking his head and venting in animated ways.

But last years WR's looked to be frustrated at times too and especially Bond.

I don't like that he left and I wished he had stayed but I also get it.

Sark and Ewers will get him the ball a LOT.

Maybe our QB would have too depending on who that turns out to be.

But I really think it would have to be a new QB1.

 

[gtgilbert]

Star WR's do not like running their butts off all game getting open and not getting ball.

It's true that most think they are always open even when they aren't but sometimes they are right.

We had demonstratively upset WR's in 2017 too. I mean by that Miss St game you could tell they were VERY frustrated.

If we had NIL and instant transfers back then and Tua never is given his chance then we probably lose Jeudy, Waddle, Smitty, and Ruggs after losing to UGA.

Calvin was already leaving for the NFL and he looked maybe the most upset because he was trying to raise his draft stock and shaking his head and venting in animated ways.

But last years WR's looked to be frustrated at times too and especially Bond.

I don't like that he left and I wished he had stayed but I also get it.

Sark and Ewers will get him the ball a LOT.

Maybe our QB would have too depending on who that turns out to be.

But I really think it would have to be a new QB1.

Couldn't blame Ridley for being frustrated. Had a pretty big drop off in numbers from Coker to year 1 of Hurts. Year 2 of Hurts was slightly better than year 1, but still not what he was able to put on the board with Coker.

 

[HighlandOak]

No…..but given the optics around here lately, there seems to be a few on this board who “don’t want Jalen Milroe to be the starter” more than Ty Simpson “wants to be the starter.”

Me. I believe Ty should be QB1, and my second choice is any QB not named Milroe.

 

[BamaMoon]

No…..but given the optics around here lately, there seems to be a few on this board who “don’t want Jalen Milroe to be the starter” more than Ty Simpson “wants to be the starter.”

To be fair, I think some of that is ironically being pushed by some who are determined JM should be the starter based on last year's results rather than a true competition this year of all the candidates.

His '23 stats of TDs vs. INTs, completion rates and paltry yardage total are tossed around "as proof" he is going to be the guy when more realistic folks understand those "stats" don't tell the real "story."

I believe any optimism for TS or any other QB is not a personal attack against JM, but a belief nobody can change in one off season as much as JM needs to change to become a complete QB. It's also based on an expectation that CKD's offense needs more arm talent, precision and pocket awareness than JM has to offer.

 

[bamaslammer]

I don't think JM's passing ability were good enough last year but I've seen a few first year starters blossom in year two as a starter so I'm not going to assume he can't pass at an NFL level. Plus new system, new opportunity. Joe Borrow didn't strike me as anything more than a transient gap year starter his first season. Will JM move forward? I have no clue. I do believe Ty has the more classic NFL style arm that we mostly look for. Since we don't have access to practice footage there really isn't any way to know. I do not see any particular mobility advantage JM has over Ty. The best run by a QB last year was from Ty, though he dropped the freakin ball going into the endzone. JM has some straight line speed but is just not a natural runner. It's like he lacks field vision or something.

I believe that Saban was never overly focused on the offense. In his mind the game was won by the defense. This staff is focused 180 degrees from that. If JM hits a wall I don't think you'll see DeBoer hesitate to give Ty a shot. But Ty would need grab that opportunity and get a big win. He can't just pace JM and take his job.

 

[Ledsteplin]

I think a huge part is that he desperately wants to prove he is a NFL quarterback instead of just playing his game. The truth is that he is a one read and go quarterback that is trying to trick people into thinking he is Tom Brady. The problem is that he doesn’t read defenses quick enough to do that and it would be far more beneficial to him to just read one guy and decide whether to run or pass based on only that. He gets in far too much trouble standing in the pocket.

I would think nearly all college quarterbacks desperately want to prove they can play in the NFL. I think he just wants to be the best he can be at any level.

 

[gtgilbert]

No…..but given the optics around here lately, there seems to be a few on this board who “don’t want Jalen Milroe to be the starter” more than Ty Simpson “wants to be the starter.”

I think it's more like BamaBuzzard said; We just don't want a repeat of the level of QB play we saw in 2023 which was incredibly frustrating. If JM makes huge strides and fixes those issues from '23, that's totally fine with most of us. If he can't/doesn't, we are hoping someone else will be able to step up and be able to run the offense (hopefully a holistic one) such that all the playmakers we have at WR, TE and RB are able to use the skills they were recruited for. There's simply to big of a risk of high level playmakers transferring out if they don't get the opportunity to show their skills due to lack of execution of a holistic passing offense.