JessN: Assistant coach hiring tracker...

[westide]

Bloomgren made $926k as HC at Rice in 2023. Wolford would have made $925k as OL coach at Bama. Someone help me make sense of this.

It is very hard to win at Rice. just look at the coaches and their records over the last century. A successful stint as an assistant coach at Bama would probably be a better route to take to advance your career. CKD already has a couple of assistants that left HC jobs at other schools. Besides, making similar salary but less responsibility may be a seller for some.

 

[Ledsteplin]

It is very hard to win at Rice. just look at the coaches and their records over the last century. A successful stint as an assistant coach at Bama would probably be a better route to take to advance your career. CKD already has a couple of assistants that left HC jobs at other schools. Besides, making similar salary but less responsibility may be a seller for some.

I guess. But Bloomgren has done ok at Rice. He took the Owls to a bowl two years in a row.

 

[JessN]

Bloomgren made $926k as HC at Rice in 2023. Wolford would have made $925k as OL coach at Bama. Someone help me make sense of this.

Rice has an undergrad enrollment of less than 4,500. For many years, Rice and Tulsa (enrollment: 3,800) were the two smallest schools in FBS. They may still be.

Neither school has any business being in modern FBS right now and the resource gap between them and a school like Alabama is astronomical.

 

[Ledsteplin]

I

BAMA>RICE

I had been wondering about that lately.

 

[JessN]

I guess. But Bloomgren has done ok at Rice. He took the Owls to a bowl two years in a row.

Well, yes relative to what Rice usually does in football -- and even with two straight bowl appearances, both those seasons were losing seasons in the end (5-8 and 6-7).

In the four prior years, Bloomgren went a cumulative 11-31.

The issue for Bloomgren is that yes, he's probably the best level of a coach Rice can reasonably expect to employ, but he probably has career aspirations and even though he's done well there the last couple of years, a career record of 22-46 isn't going to get him noticed. He'd do better to push the reset button, and go OL -> OC -> head coach somewhere else. Or jump to the NFL.

Not saying he's going to be the guy here but he's probably thinking something very similar to what I posted in the above paragraph.

 

[westide]

I guess. But Bloomgren has done ok at Rice. He took the Owls to a bowl two years in a row.

His record is 22-45.

 

[JessN]

UPDATE ...

Added Bill Bedenbaugh (Oklahoma OL coach) to the OL coach list.

 

[Ledsteplin]

His record is 22-45.

First year must have been like Saban's first at Bama. He apparently got their program turned around.

 

[JessN]

First year must have been like Saban's first at Bama. He apparently got their program turned around.

This is his record through the years:

2018: 2-11
2019: 3-9
2020: 2-3
2021: 4-8
2022: 5-8 (lost bowl game)
2023: 6-7 (lost bowl game)

Conference record of 16-29 during that time. This is very similar to Frank Beamer's early numbers with Virginia Tech, but there hasn't been a winning record posted yet, and as such I think Bloomgren is going to have to change jobs if he wants to get anyone's attention for a promotion (unless he posts something crazy this year). The incremental improvement is fine for Rice but perhaps not for Bloomgren.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

True, but Golding still managed to waste many great teams. I get that this is DeBoer's offense, and that he will be heavily involved. But will he actually call the plays? If so, I am not worried about that. If not, then Sheridan is a risk.

Let's see how it goes.

I don't see Sheridan as a risk.
He is a talented coach and I'm sure he will run plays in the DeBoer Offense. If I'm wrong Coach Sheridan will be history.
I'm also sure that Coach DeBoer will call some plays.
Sheridan will be tasked to teach the DeBoer Offense to our players. Teach em what to run. how to run it, and drill em until they get it right. That will be every coach's job.
Hopefully we will have a couple of QBs and WRs catch on fast.

This kind of reminds me of when we adopted the Wishbone Offense. It took us a couple of months to learn the Offense.
This will be easier to learn because over the last decade a few teams ran The Air Raid Offense, but they didn't run the DeBoer Offense.
This sounds bad, but I would like to see our coaches work our players like a rented mule. That will pay off later.

 

[TiderJack]

Bloomgren made $926k as HC at Rice in 2023. Wolford would have made $925k as OL coach at Bama. Someone help me make sense of this.

Job security. Playing in front of 100,000 people instead of 15,000-30,0000people. Coaching against UGA, LSWho and Ole Miss instead of Tulsa, USF and East Carolina. I don't know if he is the right hire but I think it is the stage we play on and is why we already have two ex head coaches from Group of 5 on this staff.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Job security. Playing in front of 100,000 people instead of 15,000-30,0000people. Coaching against UGA, LSWho and Ole Miss instead of Tulsa, USF and East Carolina. I don't know if he is the right hire but I think it is the stage we play on and is why we already have two ex head coaches from Group of 5 on this staff.

Plus Nil headache of not being competitive. Imagine finding diamonds and losing them every year because the school can’t muster the bribes, ahem, Nil funds.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

BAMA>RICE

Grits > rice

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

Bloomgren made $926k as HC at Rice in 2023. Wolford would have made $925k as OL coach at Bama. Someone help me make sense of this.

Already have 2 group of 5 coaches who resigned their spots to be on the staff. And just saw chip Kelley do the same to call plays at Ohio state.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Already have 2 group of 5 coaches who resigned their spots to be on the staff. And just saw chip Kelley do the same to call plays at Ohio state.

But didn't the ones at Alabama involve a good size bump in pay? Maybe what Jess said about a better career path could be the motivation.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

But didn't the ones at Alabama involve a good size bump in pay? Maybe what Jess said about a better career path could be the motivation.

Possibly but not necessarily (we actually haven't seen any contract details yet) probably similar pay for both.

Consider that being paid the same as a DC or co DC as you made as a head coach means less work (though still a lot of work) for the same pay.

 

[TexasBama]

Rice has an undergrad enrollment of less than 4,500. For many years, Rice and Tulsa (enrollment: 3,800) were the two smallest schools in FBS. They may still be.

Neither school has any business being in modern FBS right now and the resource gap between them and a school like Alabama is astronomical.

Rice was big time in the 50s. Rice Stadium was among the largest stadiums in the country when it was built. The Rice people like to say that the stadium would hold all Rice alumni, living and dead.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

Interesting side note. Robert bala was hired to replace inge at Washington.

 

[mlingerfelt31]

Should we hire OL coach this week?

 

[Ledsteplin]

Should we hire OL coach this week?

You go check with DeBoer, then come let us know!