There were actually early reports that the officer was in bad shape when he reached the ER, so far as his face was concerned. That was before the information clamp went on...
Cop in MO kills unarmed black teen
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There were actually early reports that the officer was in bad shape when he reached the ER, so far as his face was concerned. That was before the information clamp went on...
When I was a teen, a 22 ricocheted and 2 small pieces went through my leg and a third piece lodged in my kneecap. When it went off, it scared me so bad, I took off running and didn't even realize I had been hit for several minutes when I finally noticed blood running down my leg. Even after I noticed it, there was no pain. Adrenaline and fear I guess. I don't know if I would believe it possible if that hadn't of happened to me.
You're correct. They'll never believe it, even if there are mountains of evidence...
In the meantime.....the angry mobs plus media circus only serve to cloud the picture.
Who really cares about justice?
Ironic to infinity.
Yup, as Earle pointed out earlier, handgun rounds are inherently weak against the human body, unless you hit the CNS. There was a shootout (in FL, iirc) where the cop put 22 rounds of .40S&W into a guy before he quit the fight...
http://www.lawofficer.com/article/training/officer-down-peter-soulis-inci
IOW, if a big, determined due is charging the officer and he feels the need to use deadly force, it might take a LOT of handgun rounds to stop the guy.
The evidence doesn't paint a very good picture for Brown.
In large part because the Ferguson PD did a lousy job of managing the situation, letting other narratives gain momentum instead of getting out in front of things. Here we are, ten days after the shooting and we are JUST learning of Officer Wilson's injury? You add that to the growing mistrust of LE in this country--as evidenced by the number of "LEOs out of control" posts on this website, already existing racial tension in the area, and it's not hard to see how things got out of control.
I'm not condoning the additional violence and looting mind you, just suggesting an answer to your question.
I think another reason for the protests are, simply put, protests can be fun. You get attention, news cameras, crowds chanting. The exhilaration, excitement of a purpose, and feeling of 'we are gonna change the world!'
Some people protest just for the sake of protesting.
Well, I think most of the community there (and elsewhere) realizes things are 'broken' in black culture - but it's easier to blame other people for it than to accept responsibility for your own life and decisions...
I've stated it earlier - there's zero question that the racism of the past will take generations to fix, nor is there any questions that institutional racism still exists today. That said, there are FAR too many examples of black people pulling themselves out of poverty, fighting the racism, and succeeding to conclude that racism is the primary issue here.
If the poor black communities would work to fix reality of 'non-existent' fathers and value education / work ethic instead of continuing to think the 'thug culture' is cool, changes could be made. But as someone who has invested time in the poor black communities I can tell you - white folks and the government can't fix this. The victim mentality that's been sold to so many in these poor communities is powerful and tough to beat - it's nearly impossible to teach someone to accept responsibility when they can blame someone else...
That said, I'll repeat what I said earlier: when a black person has been treated as a lesser person for much of their life, it becomes easy to believe that this white cop shot an innocent, unarmed black kid, regardless as to whether that's what actually happened or not. The world view is just different. And changing that is a monumental task...
Oh, so what they SHOULD have done was what the cops did in the George Zimmerman case, right? Come to the conclusion that it was self-defense and tell us all that's what it was. Yeah, there was no media circus or nonsense there, just a clear and accurate reporting of the facts. Shame on Ferguson for not being like the cops in Florida!!!!
You can't seriously believe for even one second it makes a difference to the rabble-rousers in Ferguson....
The cops in Ferguson got on the wrong side of a historical metaphor. This was doomed from the get-go but a bonanza for ratings.
I've kept my cards close to the vest on this but it appears the evidence is vindicating the original police narrative.
And despite our many disagreements, I don't for one second think you condone violence or looting nor do I think anyone else here on TF does. The sad part (which is not your fault or mine) is that we are at a point now in societal communication where you actually have to throw in a caveat in nearly every post (as do all of us). Everyone of us has to say "I don't approve of X but.." that's ridiculous. Common sense ought to indicate we don't.
Not that unusual. I've had significant injuries which didn't hurt at first. In fact, I've actually had the thought pass through my head that it was going to hurt like hell later...
Actually the very first reports had the officer going to the ER with significant facial injuries. Then, the flow of info from the FPD seemed to stop. They would have been better off to, at least, release the extent of his injuries. CNN had one young witness giving an account of the incident which is now clearly fiction. All she seemed to have seen was just the officer leaving the cruiser and shooting an unarmed Brown with his hands in the air. AFAIC, if a big dude had just gotten through pushing in half of my face, hands up in the air is not enough, particularly if he's advancing. He'd better hit his belly on the concrete. I still wonder how Wilson won the battle for the gun and what would have happened to him, had he lost that battle...
Kind of goes back and gives support to the 80 yr old shooting the woman who just attacked him and then said "don't shoot, I'm pregnant."
That's a tough case. IIRC, she was actually on the ground already shot, begging for her life. I also think she turned out not to be pregnant. However, the homeowner was, after all, 80. They'd invaded his home and he couldn't be sure that she wasn't "playing possum" until she could get a better position to grab him. Tough case...
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