From ESPN, a second pro day for Mac...

[bamadwain]

The two teams ahead have been pretty open about whom they're taking. I don't think anyone thinks there is any analysis going on. Even Shanahan has said there's no point in concealing anything this year at #3, which tells me that he hasn't made up his mind, not that he's playing games...

From what some talking heads were saying yesterday, is Shanahan wants Jones and Lynch wants Fields so i guess its like everything take it for what it's worth

 

[TIDE-HSV]

From what some talking heads were saying yesterday, is Shanahan wants Jones and Lynch wants Fields so i guess its like everything take it for what it's worth

Each has a characteristic which can neither be coached nor learned...

 

[DymaxionDon]

I pulled these numbers from NFL.com so they are not necessarily the best draft evaluations but should be somewhat unbiased.
Player: Dwayne Haskins Draft rating: 6.70
Justin Fields 6.45
Tua Tagovailoa 6.77
Mac Jones 6.33

Using this as a guide perhaps we need to pump the brakes a bit on this years class of Qb's.

 

[DogPatch]

I think the kid from BYU is Jimmy Clausen Jr. Well paid clipboard holder...

I'd take that job.

 

[gtgilbert]

I pulled these numbers from NFL.com so they are not necessarily the best draft evaluations but should be somewhat unbiased.
Player: Dwayne Haskins Draft rating: 6.70
Justin Fields 6.45
Tua Tagovailoa 6.77
Mac Jones 6.33

Using this as a guide perhaps we need to pump the brakes a bit on this years class of Qb's.

well, this is what they have for Jones weaknesses:

• Very thin lower body and struggles to fight off rush contact.
• Slow ball handler on RPOs.
• Leaves back half behind in his follow-through.
• Average release quickness.
• Locks in on a target rather than honoring the progressions.
• Doesn't play with the desired poise of an NFL starter.
• Antsy when reads don't quickly come together.
• Play can be panicky and rushed in the face of pressure.
• Has trouble locating open targets in direction where heat is coming from.
• Would like to see him play with more grit.

I added the bold - because that's the stuff that is just nonsense. The other stuff, maybe so, but this had me wondering if they only watched stuff from 2019...

 

[TideEngineer08]

well, this is what they have for Jones weaknesses:

• Very thin lower body and struggles to fight off rush contact.
• Slow ball handler on RPOs.
• Leaves back half behind in his follow-through.
• Average release quickness.
• Locks in on a target rather than honoring the progressions.
• Doesn't play with the desired poise of an NFL starter.
• Antsy when reads don't quickly come together.
• Play can be panicky and rushed in the face of pressure.
• Has trouble locating open targets in direction where heat is coming from.
• Would like to see him play with more grit.

I added the bold - because that's the stuff that is just nonsense. The other stuff, maybe so, but this had me wondering if they only watched stuff from 2019...

Balderdash.

More grit? These people have not watched him play.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

well, this is what they have for Jones weaknesses:

• Very thin lower body and struggles to fight off rush contact.
• Slow ball handler on RPOs.
• Leaves back half behind in his follow-through.
• Average release quickness.
• Locks in on a target rather than honoring the progressions.
• Doesn't play with the desired poise of an NFL starter.
• Antsy when reads don't quickly come together.
• Play can be panicky and rushed in the face of pressure.
• Has trouble locating open targets in direction where heat is coming from.
• Would like to see him play with more grit.

I added the bold - because that's the stuff that is just nonsense. The other stuff, maybe so, but this had me wondering if they only watched stuff from 2019...

Good grief, if even half of those are true he shouldn't be playing football at all.

 

[crimsonaudio]

In all honesty, I'm not super-biased as I generally don't care how Bama players do after they leave UA, outside of the fact that their NFL performance can help recruit more players to Alabama...

That said, those NFL 'weaknesses' of Jones are largely bullcrap. Literally pulled out of thin air.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

well, this is what they have for Jones weaknesses:

• Very thin lower body and struggles to fight off rush contact.
• Slow ball handler on RPOs.
• Leaves back half behind in his follow-through.
• Average release quickness.
• Locks in on a target rather than honoring the progressions.
• Doesn't play with the desired poise of an NFL starter.
• Antsy when reads don't quickly come together.
• Play can be panicky and rushed in the face of pressure.
• Has trouble locating open targets in direction where heat is coming from.
• Would like to see him play with more grit.

I added the bold - because that's the stuff that is just nonsense. The other stuff, maybe so, but this had me wondering if they only watched stuff from 2019...

There's no way that can be from NFL scouts...

 

[OSUTideFan]

well, this is what they have for Jones weaknesses:

• Very thin lower body and struggles to fight off rush contact.
• Slow ball handler on RPOs.
• Leaves back half behind in his follow-through.
• Average release quickness.
• Locks in on a target rather than honoring the progressions.
• Doesn't play with the desired poise of an NFL starter.
• Antsy when reads don't quickly come together.
• Play can be panicky and rushed in the face of pressure.
• Has trouble locating open targets in direction where heat is coming from.
• Would like to see him play with more grit.

I added the bold - because that's the stuff that is just nonsense. The other stuff, maybe so, but this had me wondering if they only watched stuff from 2019...

Wow. That’s some garbage. Meanwhile the Trevor Lawrence hype train is gaining steam


Strengths:

• Winner; carried his team to championships
• Tremendous skill set
• Accurate passer
• Powerful arm
• Can make all the throws
• Stunning smile
• Can fire fastballs into tight windows
• Fabulous and rare deep-ball accuracy
• Timing
• Anticipates
• Deadly as a pocket passer when given time
• Flat stomach
• Pocket presence; doesn't panic when first read is covered
• Willing to push the ball downfield
• Precision thrower
• Field vision
• Flowing locks
• Throws into tight windows
• Stands tall; steps into hits
• Ability to work through progressions
• Doesn’t complain at Ikea
• Hits receivers on the run
• Throws receivers open
• Leads receivers for more yardage after the catch
• Able to loft in touch passes
• Throws a very catchable ball
• Quick release; quality mechanics
• Shivers timbers
• Good decision-making
• Avoids turnovers
• Athleticism
• Mobility
• Ability to extend plays
• Can hurt defenses on the ground
• Speed takes defenses by surprise
• Never forgets a birthday or anniversary
• Can throw off platform
• Dangerous passer on the run
• Terrific nails
• Good fit in any pro offense
• Experienced
• Has had success against good competition
• Intelligent
• Humble
• Hard working
• Sensitive yet tough
• Upside
• Lots of experience against top competition
• Experience under pressure
• Experience carrying a team, being the face of a program

Weaknesses:

• Can lock onto his primary read
• Long-limbed frame could be a negative in the pocket in the NFL

 

[DogPatch]

Wow. That’s some garbage. Meanwhile the Trevor Lawrence hype train is gaining steam


Strengths:

• Winner; carried his team to championships
• Tremendous skill set
• Accurate passer
• Powerful arm
• Can make all the throws
• Can fire fastballs into tight windows
• Fabulous and rare deep-ball accuracy
• Timing
• Anticipates
• Deadly as a pocket passer when given time
• Pocket presence; doesn't panic when first read is covered
• Willing to push the ball downfield
• Precision thrower
• Field vision
• Throws into tight windows
• Stands tall; steps into hits
• Ability to work through progressions
• Hits receivers on the run
• Throws receivers open
• Leads receivers for more yardage after the catch
• Able to loft in touch passes
• Throws a very catchable ball
• Quick release; quality mechanics
• Good decision-making
• Avoids turnovers
• Athleticism
• Mobility
• Ability to extend plays
• Can hurt defenses on the ground
• Speed takes defenses by surprise
• Can throw off platform
• Dangerous passer on the run
• Good fit in any pro offense
• Experienced
• Has had success against good competition
• Intelligent
• Humble
• Hard working
• Upside
• Lots of experience against top competition
• Experience under pressure
• Experience carrying a team, being the face of a program

Weaknesses:

• Can lock onto his primary read
• Long-limbed frame could be a negative in the pocket in the NFL

It should just say "We like him because he beat Alabama in the national championship game."

 

[bamarebel]

Did they forget to mention the supermodel girlfriend or did I miss that?

 

[TideEngineer08]

Wow. That’s some garbage. Meanwhile the Trevor Lawrence hype train is gaining steam


Strengths:

• Winner; carried his team to championships
• Tremendous skill set
• Accurate passer
• Powerful arm
• Can make all the throws
• Stunning smile
• Can fire fastballs into tight windows
• Fabulous and rare deep-ball accuracy
• Timing
• Anticipates
• Deadly as a pocket passer when given time
• Flat stomach
• Pocket presence; doesn't panic when first read is covered
• Willing to push the ball downfield
• Precision thrower
• Field vision
• Flowing locks
• Throws into tight windows
• Stands tall; steps into hits
• Ability to work through progressions
• Doesn’t complain at Ikea
• Hits receivers on the run
• Throws receivers open
• Leads receivers for more yardage after the catch
• Able to loft in touch passes
• Throws a very catchable ball
• Quick release; quality mechanics
• Shivers timbers
• Good decision-making
• Avoids turnovers
• Athleticism
• Mobility
• Ability to extend plays
• Can hurt defenses on the ground
• Speed takes defenses by surprise
• Never forgets a birthday or anniversary
• Can throw off platform
• Dangerous passer on the run
• Terrific nails
• Good fit in any pro offense
• Experienced
• Has had success against good competition
• Intelligent
• Humble
• Hard working
• Sensitive yet tough
• Upside
• Lots of experience against top competition
• Experience under pressure
• Experience carrying a team, being the face of a program

Weaknesses:

• Can lock onto his primary read
• Long-limbed frame could be a negative in the pocket in the NFL

POTD right here

 

[Con]

Wow. That’s some garbage. Meanwhile the Trevor Lawrence hype train is gaining steam


Strengths:

• Winner; carried his team to championships
• Tremendous skill set
• Accurate passer
• Powerful arm
• Can make all the throws
• Stunning smile
• Can fire fastballs into tight windows
• Fabulous and rare deep-ball accuracy
• Timing
• Anticipates
• Deadly as a pocket passer when given time
• Flat stomach
• Pocket presence; doesn't panic when first read is covered
• Willing to push the ball downfield
• Precision thrower
• Field vision
• Flowing locks
• Throws into tight windows
• Stands tall; steps into hits
• Ability to work through progressions
• Doesn’t complain at Ikea
• Hits receivers on the run
• Throws receivers open
• Leads receivers for more yardage after the catch
• Able to loft in touch passes
• Throws a very catchable ball
• Quick release; quality mechanics
• Shivers timbers
• Good decision-making
• Avoids turnovers
• Athleticism
• Mobility
• Ability to extend plays
• Can hurt defenses on the ground
• Speed takes defenses by surprise
• Never forgets a birthday or anniversary
• Can throw off platform
• Dangerous passer on the run
• Terrific nails
• Good fit in any pro offense
• Experienced
• Has had success against good competition
• Intelligent
• Humble
• Hard working
• Sensitive yet tough
• Upside
• Lots of experience against top competition
• Experience under pressure
• Experience carrying a team, being the face of a program

Weaknesses:

• Can lock onto his primary read
• Long-limbed frame could be a negative in the pocket in the NFL

Holy crap! This reminds me of Beano Cook raving over that Notre Dame QB many years ago. Lawrence has a lot to live up too.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Holy crap! This reminds me of Beano Cook raving over that Notre Dame QB many years ago. Lawrence has a lot to live up too.

He does and I doubt he does - JMO...

 

[DzynKingRTR]

He does and I doubt he does - JMO...

I am with you Earle. I just don't think he lives up to the hype. If I am wrong I will own it.

 

[Ratal]

I have never been all that impressed with Lawrence or Fields. I will admit to only watching them play 2-4 times. I saw two guys that had accuracy issues that were, at times, bailed out by their receivers. I do understand that Lawrence has to go first in the draft. There is just too much hype around him by the media and fans. Jacksonville would initially look bad if they did not select him.

 

[BhamToTexas]

well, this is what they have for Jones weaknesses:

• Very thin lower body and struggles to fight off rush contact.
• Slow ball handler on RPOs.
• Leaves back half behind in his follow-through.
• Average release quickness.
• Locks in on a target rather than honoring the progressions.
• Doesn't play with the desired poise of an NFL starter.
• Antsy when reads don't quickly come together.
• Play can be panicky and rushed in the face of pressure.
• Has trouble locating open targets in direction where heat is coming from.
• Would like to see him play with more grit.

I added the bold - because that's the stuff that is just nonsense. The other stuff, maybe so, but this had me wondering if they only watched stuff from 2019...

This is just a pathetic analysis. People get paid to put together garbage like this?

 

[TideMan09]

What I don't understand is they were drooling over Burrows last season & Mac had a better year than Burrows did his senior season..Mac was better than Burrows..

 

[Bamabuzzard]

What I don't understand is they were drooling over Burrows last season & Mac had a better year than Burrows did his senior season..Mac was better than Burrows..

It is because Burrow is more athletic/mobile than Jones. If you take away Burrow's edge in mobility they are the same quarterback. But Burrow is more mobile, which doesn't mean he's a better quarterback, just means he's more mobile.