LSU Spring Game

[J4Bama]

I don't think that LSU has ever had a good showing at their spring game.

 

[Eshad]

Man, I wish I hadn't missed that. Didn't even know ESPN was going to run it.

I think that the thing that has always fascinated me about Les Miles may be that he is so much like players I knew. There were always guys who talked a good game, but once you got them out on the field, you saw that it was all talk.

What has always bugged me is that since then, this type of person hangs around the game, is very loud about it, and I know from listening to him that he is more mouth than anything else. But there is not a thing I can do about it -- but just sit there and watch him keep mouthing off. The media is full of these guys. Boiling over with them. It's been that way now for the past 25 or 30 years.

Les' problem has been that as soon as the Saban effect wore off on LSU football, Les' loud, "confident" talk has more and more been proven to be just that -- TALK.

I had never heard an LSU coach come over into south Alabama like Les did and just mouth off about how he wanted this and that player. The last player like that he wanted, he said very plainly for the media, was Trent Richardson. "We need a great tailback," he said. When Saban was coming over here from LSU and plucking JaMarcus Russell and a few other blue chippers out of Mobile, he just slipped over in the night, as it were, and took them away, without saying anything. Now that Saban is at Alabama, about all Les can do about the Mobile-Pensacola-Baldwin County area is just talk. That's what Les excels at. He even showed that in that Big Cat video. Les is a great talker.

But wait a minute. Les can't even do that. When the light comes on, Les is often so tongue-tied that he can't put together a good sentence. His sentences are so bad, they aren't funny -- they're just bad.

When Gerry DiNardo was at LSU, not only did he rarely if ever sign some player out of south Alabama -- he never said one thing about even trying to. Then Saban came in and changed the way they recruited at LSU. And then once Saban left for Miami, ol' Les wanted us all to believe that he was going to be a force in the Mobile area. He hasn't been. Nick Saban has continued to be the force in south Alabama.

I don't like to jump somebody's bones publicly, but when a guy is so openly brash, takes so much credit that isn't due him, and is so obviously trying to portray himself as something he is not, THAT is what I notice. And Les has been this way ever since he got to LSU.

The first thing Les did when he got to LSU was to turn the LSU signing ceremony into a statewide radio event. He proclaimed that LSU was going to continue what Saban had begun, but he didn't mention Saban's name. He was, he said, going to keep Louisiana's blue-chippers in state. He has pretty well kept that promise.

But the problem with that first class he signed was that in that small group of about 18 or 20 players was Ryan Perriloux. He made a big deal about signing Perriloux, who was one of the top-ranked players in the whole country coming out of high school. But Saban had refused to recruit Perriloux before leaving for Miami. That whole thing blew up in Les' face. It was mostly talk where Perriloux was concerned. Perriloux had all the ability in the world, but he lacked character, and Saban knew it and Les didn't. Les has never recovered from that mistake. He has had quarterback problems ever since. BIG quarterback problems.

Once Les got into his first season at LSU, to hear him talk on New Orleans WWL Radio, out of Baton Rouge, you would have though he was Knute Rockne, Bear Bryant, and Vince Lombardi, all rolled into one. When it came time to play Alabama, I'll never forget what he said -- "We need to hit our stride." His problem has been that yes, they hit their stride, but it was a stride that Nick Saban had begun. Once Saban's footprints gave out at Baton Rouge, Les' talk has sounded more and more like -- talk.

You can watch the replay on ESPN360.com if you have access to that.

 

[Crimson Cat]

This is a sticky subject for me. I absolutely cannot stand LSU, period. But- while I enjoy watching Miles do LES with more (good stuff)- I think that we are better off having him on the sidelines in Baton Rouge. I love watching them fall apart at the end of games but if it continues then he'll surely be shown the door and I don't want that either...

Totally agree. He needs to stick around over there for a long while.

 

[Vinny]

I hope to God no one from Bama shaves #1 in their head. Did you see that dude from LSU, I think it was Shepherd? He looked like a #1 dork with that shaved in his head.
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[THE BAMA IRISHMAN]

I hope to God no one from Bama shaves #1 in their head. Did you see that dude from LSU, I think it was Shepherd? He looked like a #1 dork with that shaved in his head.
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Like Rolando McClain said to Chris Low last season. "We take care of business on the field, not off!". :biga2:

 

[BamaBuc]

That was jsut aweful watching that scrimmage....
Jefferson , while he may be a good kid is not an SEC calibu QB and they have it in their minds that he is the man....
This season will be a fitting end to "Do Les With More" Miles, he is gone and should be with the atheletes he gets at LSU and cannot do anything with them...
RTR
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It's kind of obvious that LSU will be running their O out of the shotgun or if you prefer the wild kitty with the QB as the kitty!

IF LESs had an imagination you would probably see Russell Shepard running the show at QB, with Lee as the backup, and put Jefferson in as the slot receiver. Of course all that won't matter much when you look at that D up the middle!

As for Ford looking good, well the lsu D is lacking size and solid depth, especially up the middle, therefore Ford's looking good is extremely suspect!

SEC teams are gonna pound the middle of that D like crazy and then smack 'em over the top!

Also for anyone interested............

Spring Games on TV (Eastern Times)​

Texas Longhorns .................. April 4 FSSW/FCS Central 5 PM

Georgia Bulldogs .................. April 10 CSS Cable/ESPN360 2 PM

North Carolina Tarheels ......... April 10 ESPN 3 PM

Clemson Tigers ..................... April 10 CSS Cable/ESPN360 4 PM

Auburn Tigers ....................... April 17 ESPNU 2 PM

Ole Miss Rebels ..................... April 17 CSS Cable/ESPN360 2 PM

Alabama Crimson Tide ........... April 17 ESPN 3 PM

Penn State Nittany Lions ........ April 24 ESPN2 2 PM

Arkansas Razorbacks ............. April 24 Cox/ESPN360 7 PM

 

[mittman]

I watched the first quarter of it.

Looked good to me:
OL 1s
I agree about Ford
Shepard despite the hair cut
Mingo

QB accuracy was attrocious.
As high as they are on the DL, as a group they did not look that impressive to me, they were getting pushed around badly.

 

[sanjosecrimson]

watching the game and hearing comments from the ESPN crew, I still get this feeling that even though Desmond Howard/Craig James/Jesse Palmer who all pick us as pre-season #1 are somewhat skeptical about the Tide..

especially when you hear Palmer (a gator homer) and James talk, they know that Bama is legit, but deep down they are just waiting for Bama to lose their first game!! :cool2:

btw, they mentioned that LSU players felt that they were very close to playing for the SECCG and possible BCSNCG. REALLY???

-they played UF close (Tebow still recovering from concussion). UF offense was very conservative with their game plan due to Tebow's injury. but they were able to move against an LSU D with just dive plays that the Tigers couldn't stop even when they know it coming!! even if they were to play UF again in the SECCG, do you really think that LSU could dismantled them the way Bama did??


- the Ole Miss game was just plain embarrassing with clock management!

-the Bama game came down to physical performance and making plays when it mattered. but LSU players and fans just like to remembered that they had the lead coming in to the 4th quarter. last I checked, Football is 60 minutes!!

LSU players and their staff are very confident that next season they are serious contenders for not just the WEST, but the SEC!! even possibly a shot at the National title!! they lose 3 of 4 of their Defensive linemen and 8 total starters from last year and still have Jefferson as their QB and not to mentioned Les Miles as their chief. we shall see....

its funny and really sad that rival teams have selective memories when it comes down to reality. I look forward to whipping their Bengal butts again for the 3rd time in Baton Rouge this season, we owe them many more defeats!!

RTR!!:BigA:

 

[BamaInBham]

-the Bama game came down to physical performance and making plays when it mattered. but LSU players and fans just like to remembered that they had the lead coming in to the 4th quarter. last I checked, Football is 60 minutes!!

RTR!!:BigA:

Many seem to forget that Bama dominated play in that game for the most part. Outgained them about 450-250. Turnovers and missed opportunities by Bama kept it close. You never felt really threatened by LSU even when they had the lead. Bama is close or ahead of them in talent now. LSU will have to play perfect football or Bama will have to be sleep-walking, otherwise it will be a fluke if LSU wins.

 

[BAMA504]

LSWHO????????? LMAO....... What a sad state of affairs their players live in... I am forced to live here until I can find a job that moves me out of here and I can tell you first hand and its only been what 2 days that these people have NO ILLUSIONS like their players that they will be playing for anything other than 8-4 if that...
The fans here are off the wagon and talking about who they want next as a head coach.. I get that from almost every single lswho fan that I come across and believe me walking around with BAMA Tattoo's and a BAMA NC T-shirt I run into many and they all say the same thing ... You stole our coach and we will be back as soon as we get rid of miles.....

On the spring game I was at my brother-n-laws house in Baton Rouge as he is a HUGE lswho fan and he turned the game off after the 3rd quarter in disgust if that tells you anything.. I did see Ford & Mingo but 2 kids are not going to win the SEC and trust me lswho has alot more problems than what they displayed in their spring game... Man its good times again to be a BAMA Fan~!~

 

[Crimson Cat]

I think its pretty clear now...either Miles is under-achieving with the talent on hand...or the talent they have is not as good as advertised.
I know a lot of people seems to think LSwho could challenge BAMA in the west this year, possibly with Arky or the Barn being the darkhorses; but after hearing the responses from some of you who watched their spring game, and reading their boards, I'm not so sure. Based on reading their (LSU) boards this weekend, they aren't happy with Miles and the seat could get really warm, really quickly should things start out sloppy for them this season. There's an air of "Miles isn't getting it done" and a "wait and see" type attitude floating around their forums. Having said that, it is just a spring game, and there is time for improvement, so its hard to determine any teams progress (or lack of) too much at this point.
Personally, I want Miles to stay...so I'm hoping for them to be decent or good enough, just not great.:tongue:

 

[BamaMoon]

And I remember just a couple of years ago there was a serious debate raging on this forum about who the better coach was: Saban vs. Miles. Not much of a debate now since most of the Miles apologists are no where to be found on Tidefans anymore.

 

[IBUY]

"You wascals are weally beginning to tick me off!"

 

[Resignandreturn]

21,000 to 22,000 on hand at Tiger Stadium. Poor Showing of fans.

You are really criticizing fans not going to a spring game.. last I checked we only cared about ours since Saban arrived. Most spring games average around that.

Get your head out of the ground.

and FTR their Dline looked like it was getting pressure on the QB's all day. You saw JJ making a bad throw. I saw JJ being forced out of the pocket and having to throw the ball away or before he wanted to just to avoid a sack.

 

[BAMA504]

You are really criticizing fans not going to a spring game.. last I checked we only cared about ours since Saban arrived. Most spring games average around that.

Get your head out of the ground.

and FTR their Dline looked like it was getting pressure on the QB's all day. You saw JJ making a bad throw. I saw JJ being forced out of the pocket and having to throw the ball away or before he wanted to just to avoid a sack.

Finally one of our lswho posters makes it back and with a new name.... Your DL was getting man washed in the running game but polish that rock anyway you want you will be lucky to go 8-4 ~!~ Bet it ~!~

 

[BAMA504]

I think its pretty clear now...either Miles is under-achieving with the talent on hand...or the talent they have is not as good as advertised.
I know a lot of people seems to think LSwho could challenge BAMA in the west this year, possibly with Arky or the Barn being the darkhorses; but after hearing the responses from some of you who watched their spring game, and reading their boards, I'm not so sure. Based on reading their (LSU) boards this weekend, they aren't happy with Miles and the seat could get really warm, really quickly should things start out sloppy for them this season. There's an air of "Miles isn't getting it done" and a "wait and see" type attitude floating around their forums. Having said that, it is just a spring game, and there is time for improvement, so its hard to determine any teams progress (or lack of) too much at this point.
Personally, I want Miles to stay...so I'm hoping for them to be decent or good enough, just not great.:tongue:

I would agree that it is ONLY a spring game and not much to put stock into but those guys looked lost and there is no denying the QB position is in serious dis-array...... They do not look like a team but more like a bunch of guys who had talent in high school and not getting much help on the SEC Div I level coaching staff~!~

 

[aMAZEnFan]

Ford was good, but I think Stevan Ridley will be the starter. He was the most impressive to me.

LSU always recruits well for their defense, especially their defensive line, so they will be fine there. I will tell you this--B. Mingo will be a good one for them.

The biggest question mark will be who solidifies the spot at QB? They have already moved Shephard to WR, so it will come down to basically the same guys they had in the fold since 2008. Amazing that they have not recruited well for a QB. The 3rd String even has a legit shot, if he develops by the Fall.

The effort they showed against Penn State and in the spring game is really telling that they don't have the right chemistry along the coaching staff--not just the players.

 

[CapitalTider]

I think its pretty clear now...either Miles is under-achieving with the talent on hand...or the talent they have is not as good as advertised.

I think a third alternative is that the players are just not being developed. I think that is where the real difference between Miles and Saban is beginning to appear. Miles won a NC with a senior class that had been recruited by and largely developed by Saban and his staff. Miles was able to continue the recruiting, but player development has declined. Similar to, but not as bad as our Shula ear, Shula got decent recruits in the door, but they did not develop as Div. I football players.

The fact that he hasn't been able to recruit a servicable QB is surprising though. Of course maybe he has and the issue is coaching again.

Personally, I want Miles to stay...so I'm hoping for them to be decent or good enough, just not great.:tongue:

Me to. I'd like to see Miles stick around for another ten years. [sarcasm]I sure miss all of those LSU fans telling us that Miles was just as good as Saban. [/sarcasm]

 

[sanjosecrimson]

You are really criticizing fans not going to a spring game.. last I checked we only cared about ours since Saban arrived. Most spring games average around that.

Get your head out of the ground.

and FTR their Dline looked like it was getting pressure on the QB's all day. You saw JJ making a bad throw. I saw JJ being forced out of the pocket and having to throw the ball away or before he wanted to just to avoid a sack.

You know its obvious that YOU are not a Bama fan with your comment about our fans showing up for the Spring game, you are bad in disguising your allegiance!!

as far as their D line being effective, only a LSWho fan can only find solace that they were good!! most people on this board saw the game and WE were not impressed at all! they were getting push around all day..:rolleye2:

 

[sanjosecrimson]

Ford was good, but I think Stevan Ridley will be the starter. He was the most impressive to me.

Ford and Ridley did look good, but its really hard to tell since their Defensive Line pretty much got whipped all day. Maybe their Offensive line was better than advertised. Who knows??

the commentators kept mentioning that LSU front 4 has speed, but needed to get better at stopping the run, esp. in SEC play (i.e. Bama).