Saban signs multi-year extension w/Bama, shorthorns on suicide watch...

[Bamabuzzard]

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if we pay him $10 million a year I will never donate money to the university again...never. that's just an absurd amount of money to pay a college coach. at this rate we'll be paying a coach $30 million a year ten years from now.

I understand how people make an accounting analysis and say he's worth the money, but the university is supposed to be primarily about education and public service, not money making.

Here's the cold reality. If the football program doesn't make money or would exist at schools like Alabama then there would be A LOT of educational things that would go away or simply would never have existed to begin with.

If I'm a college president dealing with Nick Saban I give him what he wants because I know the revenue he will garner will three to four times what he's getting paid.

 

[davefrat]

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Coach is cashing in.

and we should put an end to this madness, do it publicly and call him out...make him state publicly that it's all about the money if that's what's really going on. take a stand as a university rather than a football factory. tell the world that the extra money he is seeking will go to scholarships or pay raises for faculty.

 

[bamacon]

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I mean, how can it be settled out of the lights? All this discussion is rumor and innuendo. I guess it could have happened during the season, but do we want him focused on this then?

5 second press conf or a one line press release saying he isn't going anywhere. Period. Doesn't take all that much. The details could be settled out of the prying eyes of Joe Schad and the like

 

[RollTide2U]

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I mean, how can it be settled out of the lights? All this discussion is rumor and innuendo. I guess it could have happened during the season, but do we want him focused on this then?

True. Texas has been howling about this for a year and wouldn't shut up. It looks like Sexton is using Mack Brown's misfortune to pad some pockets.

 

[Con]

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and we should put an end to this madness, do it publicly and call him out...make him state publicly that it's all about the money if that's what's really going on. take a stand as a university rather than a football factory. tell the world that the extra money he is seeking will go to scholarships or pay raises for faculty.

Leeroy, is that you? :smile:

 

[B1GTide]

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Texas fans were all:

Now they are all:

 

[davefrat]

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Here's the cold reality. If the football program doesn't make money or would exist at schools like Alabama then there would be A LOT of educational things that would go away or simply would never have existed to begin with.

If I'm a college president dealing with Nick Saban I give him what he wants because I know the revenue he will garner will three to four times what he's getting paid.

we have to agree to disagree...it's not like the university is going to shut down or fall apart if he's not the coach. what if he asks for $15 million a year? is he "worth" that? do we simply say "okay, any salary you want that provides an economic profit to the university is reasonable"?

call me old fashioned, but as an alum, I have always considered the university of Alabama to be an educational institution first and a sports program second.

 

[Con]

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Texas fans were all:

Now they are all:

This will cause someone to have a seizure.

 

[crimsonaudio]

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I think some people have an aversion to Saban trying to get every cent out of Alabama he can. I don't. The only place he is going is to the bank.

Not at all, though a person's methods can undermine their credibility.

 

[bamacon]

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In his defense, he and his wife have said that fifty times. And since it is a contract negotiation, I don't expect him to do much to lessen his leverage.

So is payback to make fans sweat? Is it cool for the AD to have to go out and say no comment? Or show after show speculate in an unceasing fashion? How does any that help? How is that not all clutter to the team? Just curious. I guess I'm overreacting.

 

[BradtheImpaler]

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This is my personal opinion as well. Sexton is really not looking out for the betterment of the Saban's but for himself and in doing so is starting fire storms that could have been avoided and more than likely accomplish the same goal. I'd like to get a running start and give Ole Jimmy boy a full throttle kick in the junk.

Looks like you would need some help from at least two of us to get his belly out of the way. I'll get the right side... who else is with us?

 

[dayhiker]

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I'm already hearing Aubies say that Malzahn "MHAQ"

 

[braggtd]

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I say we open the cash registered and pay coach what he wants.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

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Jimmy is playing a game called "Jimmy Wins"

 

[TideFan in AU]

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if we pay him $10 million a year I will never donate money to the university again...never. that's just an absurd amount of money to pay a college coach. at this rate we'll be paying a coach $30 million a year ten years from now.

I understand how people make an accounting analysis and say he's worth the money, but the university is supposed to be primarily about education and public service, not money making.

The football program has never been about education. Not ever. If Alabama doesn't give Saban what Texas is willing to give him, and he ends up leaving, it won't matter. The benchmark would already be broken, and every coach will end up making more because of it. Alabama would have just lost the best coach in CFB and will end up settling for less. If that happens, and we started losing, it will cost the university way more than a loss of your donation on a principle. To fix that problem, we'll have to pay another big name coach mucho money to get back on top, so we will have accomplished absolutely nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I get what you are saying and in theory I agree with it, but this is about protecting an investment for Alabama. Like it or not, we started this when we gave him an unprecedented 4 million/year 7 years ago...

 

[Special K]

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I'm already hearing Aubies say that Malzahn "MHAQ"

The same ones saying that will all be peeing down their legs when he signs the extension and does a press conference saying he's ready to get back to dominating the state again.

 

[RollTide2U]

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Here's the cold reality. If the football program doesn't make money or would exist at schools like Alabama then there would be A LOT of educational things that would go away or simply would never have existed to begin with.

If I'm a college president dealing with Nick Saban I give him what he wants because I know the revenue he will garner will three to four times what he's getting paid.

I don't have the link, but I remember reading about how much Alabama's enrollment has increased over the past 5 years. It was like A LOT...more than 10,000 students.

I don't often agree with Kevin Scarbinsky...but he had a point in an article the other day. If Mack Brown, with his poor performance, is making $5.6 million, then what is Saban worth in comparison? Bielema is making $5.2 mil I think. So it becomes a market comparison...and by market standards, Saban is worth a lot more. I'm sure that's what Sexton is telling Alabama right now.

 

[Catfish]

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He's going to tell you he told you so.

Well, won't that be special? I'm giddy with anticipation.

 

[dayhiker]

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The same ones saying that will all be peeing down their legs when he signs the extension and does a press conference saying he's ready to get back to dominating the state again.

I agree.

 

[bamacon]

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I say we open the cash registered and pay coach what

That's the WHOLE point. We have offered that. Hence the confusion as to why there is ANY delay.