The Onside Kick

[OreBama]

Re: Question about onside kicks

In theory, if you had the Flash on your team and the other team didn't know it, you could outrun the ball, catch it in the end zone and get a touchdown.

Nerd.

I wish we had the Flash on special teams, though.

 

[TNBama]

Re: Question about onside kicks

You sure you're not thinking of punts?

Good question. Is that the difference? When you kick a punt deep, but down it after it bounces it goes to the other team. If on a kickoff you manage to get downfield as it bounces to recover it, and the receiving team does not touch it, would it actually go to the kicking team? So is the differentiating factor if its a punt or kickoff?

 

[KentuckianaBFan]

Re: Question about onside kicks

Ya, I knew it had to go ten yards, but if it bounces and goes 11 and you get it then its yours (most onside kicks involve a bounce). But you kick it deep, it bounces, and you get it, then its goes to the other team. Where is the differentiation of the two? At what point when you kick it, and it bounces, does it go from being yours to being theirs?

No...on a kick-off, once it goes ten yards, it is a free ball...the teams that gets it, gets it...

 

[TitleWave]

Re: Question about onside kicks

... wish we had the Flash on special teams, though.

Next best thing - no accident the two "pursuers" of possession were Humphrey the nationally-ranked hurdler and Kenny Drake, state champion 100-meter sprinter.

My question on the play - and only question - is, could the nearest Clemson up-man have raised his hand for a fair catch and prevented Alabama from recovering - even if the Clemson player actually had no chance of making a fair catch?

 

[CmdrThor]

Re: Question about onside kicks

Next best thing - no accident the two "pursuers" of possession were Humphrey the nationally-ranked hurdler and Kenny Drake, state champion 100-meter sprinter.

My question on the play - and only question - is, could the nearest Clemson up-man have raised his hand for a fair catch and prevented Alabama from recovering - even if the Clemson player actually had no chance of making a fair catch?

He could have called for a fair catch, but that only affords him protection from being hit. Any player on the receiving team can actually call for fair catch and if any player from the receiving team catches the ball, it is dead. But only the player who called for the fair catch gets any protection, and if no one is there to catch it then the kicking team can catch it in the air.

Most onside kicks will be kicked so they are immediately grounded which prevents any fair catches from being called. In the case last night it didn't need to be grounded because we kicked it where we knew they wouldn't be.

 

[KentuckianaBFan]

Re: Question about onside kicks

Next best thing - no accident the two "pursuers" of possession were Humphrey the nationally-ranked hurdler and Kenny Drake, state champion 100-meter sprinter.

My question on the play - and only question - is, could the nearest Clemson up-man have raised his hand for a fair catch and prevented Alabama from recovering - even if the Clemson player actually had no chance of making a fair catch?

My "guess" is that as long as no one impeded the Clemson up-man's opportunity to catch the ball, we would have still gotten it...

 

[USCBAMA]

Re: Question about onside kicks

As others said, if clemson had someone in the vicinity then Bama would be required to give him the opportunity to catch it, which is why onside kicks are typically grounders. In this case Bama coaches noticed clemson playing a tight formation and the kid on the end turning his back as ball kicked. It was the perfect storm to run that play, no one in the area and the nearest guy turned and running the other way.

 

[MemphisBamaDude]

Re: Question about onside kicks

To answer your original question, once a kickoff travels more than 10 yards, it's a live ball and can be recovered by the kicking team, whether by design or not. You may remember in the 2010 BCSCG Texas recovered a short kick off on us. Punts are different. If no one catches a punt, it's a dead ball and goes to the receiving team.

 

[tidefan23]

Re: Question about onside kicks

Next question - must an onside kick hit the ground before it may be recovered by kicking team? Clemson fan raised the quesiton.

 

[Bama Czar]

Re: Question about onside kicks

Next question - must an onside kick hit the ground before it may be recovered by kicking team? Clemson fan raised the quesiton.

No.

 

[bamanut_aj]

What are they crying about? What are they saying about the kick?


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[bamamc1]

Who in the crap was trying to fair catch the ball?

 

[CraigMack]

Long story short: Clemson was caught with their pants down and Swinney's first reaction was anger and so he started yelling at the referees trying to safe face and maybe intimidate/bully them into making a mistake…it's what football coaches do.

 

[Elefantman]

Welcome to the big boy league Dabo. Now say "thank you sir, may I have another"

 

[rolltide_21]

Looked a couple of their boards last night. There were several threads about it but in most of them a Clemson poster explained the rules and the thread ended. There are a few reasonable ones (or should I say non-intoxicated ones who were posting) who knew the rules. Most threads ended there.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Looked a couple of their boards last night. There were several threads about it but in most of them a Clemson poster explained the rules and the thread ended. There are a few reasonable ones (or should I say non-intoxicated ones who were posting) who knew the rules. Most threads ended there.

As I just posted, there are more today. Still a minority thinking that the ball has to hit the ground. (Nowhere in the rule.) (This actually should be below my post below...)

 

[TIDE-HSV]

As of his presser, he still didn't understand the rule. He was still referencing the UNC whistle, which was a totally different situation, where a FC was called and the receiver was impeded from catching the ball. Reading their boards has been interesting. Last night, there were few of them who thought the kick was legal. Today, I guess enough of them have actually read the rule, so about 2/3 are now saying "legal." I don't have a lot of respect for Dabo, because of actions taken back when he was on staff at Bama, but I had begun to redevelop some. His behavior on the sideline and at the presser have pretty much destroyed that. The remaining question is if he will man up and admit he was wrong...

 

[rolltide_21]

Deleted. Duplicate

 

[rolltide_21]

As of his presser, he still didn't understand the rule. He was still referencing the UNC whistle, which was a totally different situation, where a FC was called and the receiver was impeded from catching the ball. Reading their boards has been interesting. Last night, there were few of them who thought the kick was legal. Today, I guess enough of them have actually read the rule, so about 2/3 are now saying "legal." I don't have a lot of respect for Dabo, because of actions taken back when he was on staff at Bama, but I had begun to redevelop some. His behavior on the sideline and at the presser have pretty much destroyed that. The remaining question is if he will man up and admit he was wrong...

Hard to admit you cost your team by not being prepared in all three phases of a national championship game, haha. So, I don't see an admission coming

 

[Jessica4Bama]

I surely wasn't the only one that was surprised by that call. I don't think anyone saw that one coming, but it was brilliant. I wanted a fake punt and got an onside kick. I'll take it.