It's just one reasonably reputable poll (Morning Consult), but anyone who thinks that was faked is woefully deluded. Though replete within their ranks, the Republicans don't have a monopoly on loony people.
Political ramifications for Trump assassination attempt part II
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i was referring more specifically to how seriously this or any of the other pearl clutching "but the democrats" nonsense should be taken
the funny thing about whataboutism is that both sides do it. It might seem odd or funny to have a whataboutism post about whataboutism, but I am not wrong.
The edges of both parties are pretty looney.
In some ways, politics are a lot like sports. They have their looneys and everyone else thinks that the looney ones are an example of the entire base.
"Whataboutism" is an old Soviet tactic used to deflect criticism. If someone accused the USSR of human rights violations, the response would be "what about the violations in China or Africa? Where is your concern for those?"
This has at least 2 ways of putting an accuser on his or her heels. First, there is the implication the accuser is not really concerned about the wrongful act, but merely has a vendetta against the accused. Second, it can force the accuser to try to distinguish between levels of bad acts. (i.e. "I'm not going after China because its atrocities are different from Russia's....somehow.)
"Whataboutism" is a deflection tactic, but the users often don't even realize they are doing it. One person's bad conduct is not excused just because other people got away with the same bad conduct. This, however, begs the question: what if the conduct isn't bad after all, because it is commonplace? (And this is a question that is highly relevant given that we're talking about a bunch of corrupted clowns in Washington D.C.)
If we are discussing Trump's documents, deflecting with "but Hillary's emails" is 100% whataboutism. You are basically accusing the other person of being upset about Trump just because he is Trump and not because of any potential crimes, which does nothing to advance the conversation (no matter how true that actually turns out to be.) However, if you are able to show that Trump's actions are similar to other former presidents, then you are defending Trump rather than attacking the accuser.
(Sorry if this post feels like rambling; it basically is. Just got home from a 4 hours drive in thunderstorms and my brain is barely in neutral.)
People heavily involved in politics think they're on the side of "good" and the other side are the evil ones. You see it in both parties. It's like two criminals in prison accusing the other of being a worse criminal. It's laughable to be honest.
You’re not wrong, but who says it carries as much weight as what’s being said.
No, no it’s not. It’s about lowering standards for guaranteed outcomes for certain individuals. It’s just as bad as nepotism. It does, and is happening.
Hit the Daily Wire for examples. They provide links to most of their stories.
VP is one better shot away from POTUS, and as crazy as this world is getting, the shots may start coming at a faster rate.
The problem being: one party's looneys has been mainstreamed by Trump.
The looneys on the left are far less likely to implement their views into policy.
You’ve got to be joking. CA just passed a law that parents don’t have to be notified if their children are transitioning genders. That’s pretty radical in the state with the largest population in the country. Banning new ICE vehicles by 2035. Ending fossil fuels with no viable alternative that can replace the on demand energy dense resource. We can keep going. I’m by no m and defending far right nonsense, but to say the far left isn’t influencing dem politics in a main stream fashion is ridiculous. Just those few examples are irresponsible nonsense.
More of that "non" violent rhetoric that some here claim to never hear from the Trump nuts. You guys just keep on ignoring what comes out of their own mouths.
I was told yesterday that Trump was a "centrist". I kid you not.
More of the "both-sides" scam.
He has no cogent, systematic philosophy. He's swung wildly to and from incongruent positions. The only thing consistent is his intention to maximize wealth and power for himself and his family...
Who the hell said that? Good Lord...
Having said that, I really wouldn't mind a true centrist occupying the WH.
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