Trump deeds and misdeeds VII

[Bazza]

So, imperialism is again alive and well in the US

No.

WASHINGTON (TNND) — Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., on Tuesday compared President-elect Donald Trump’s call for the U.S. to expand into Greenland to the Louisiana Purchase.

“There’s a lot of talk about Greenland, for example, and there’s a lot of freak-outs and of course I would never support taking it by force, but I do think it’s a responsible conversation,” the senator said. “If they were open to acquiring it-- whether just buying it outright—I mean if anyone thinks that’s bonkers it’s like, well, remember the Louisiana Purchase?”

Fetterman likens Trump's Greenland push to Louisiana Purchase: 'Responsible conversation'

President-elect Donald Trump has repeatedly called for the U.S. to acquire Greenland, most recently discussing the topic during a Tuesday press conference.

keprtv.com

 

[JDCrimson]

Buying it with money we already don't have...

 

[Bazza]

Buying it with money we already don't have...

Greenland has 56,000 citizens.

Give each of them citizenship and $500,000 cash, tax free.

Guarantee they can stay in their homes and will not be evicted.

$28B - tiny fraction of your governmental cost, pay for it by shutting the DoE.

Best deal ever.

 

[mdb-tpet]

Greenland has 56,000 citizens.

Give each of them citizenship and $500,000 cash, tax free.

Guarantee they can stay in their homes and will not be evicted.

$28B - tiny fraction of your governmental cost, pay for it by shutting the DoE.

Best deal ever.

Uh, Department of Energy, or the Department of Education? Nope for me on both, unless you don't want Pell Grants for kids to go to college (I had several Pell Grants), a coordinated education system for the country, etc. There's easily 28 Billion sloshing around in the $850 Billion Defense Budget (3.3%)

 

[Padreruf]

My first reaction to the news, was, crap, here we go again, throw crap on a wall and see what sticks. I skimmed it, but what I read in this article sounds like he's not as crazy as it seems. Mike Baker on JRE 6-7 years ago explaining the Space Force issue comes to mind as well. Sometimes he just is crazy. Other times, it is subtle things that are important and it's just his delivery that makes him sound crazy.

Even a crazy person has a good idea every now and then.

 

[Crimson1967]

If we try to take Greenland by force, would NATO members not be obligated to come to the aid of Denmark?

 

[CrimsonJazz]

If we try to take Greenland by force, would NATO members not be obligated to come to the aid of Denmark?

I highly doubt that happens, but a quick comparison of the U.S.'s financial and military contributions verses Denmark's will be the deciding factor.

 

[dayhiker]

We are not going to try and take Greenland by force. Trump may threaten and bluff it as a negotiating tactic.

 

[Bamaro]

María Corina Machado, the driving force of Venezuela’s opposition movement, was arrested by government security forces Thursday as she left a rally in Caracas, opposition leaders said, a day before President Nicolás Maduro plans to take office for a third term.

That will give our criminal-in-chief ideas

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I highly doubt that happens, but a quick comparison of the U.S.'s financial and military contributions verses Denmark's will be the deciding factor.

As I understand it, under both the Danish and Greenland constitutions, Greenland is free to declare independence at any time. Greenland's opposition leader has proposed that they do just that and then ally themselves more closely with the US. After all, we're talking about Greenland's security as well as ours. Of course, Trump's "bargaining tactics," if you want to call them that, has made that more difficult and less likely...

 

[jthomas666]

Shocker!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/09/trump-sentencing-supreme-court-new/

The Supreme Court will not intervene in Donald Trump’s New York hush money case.

5-4 decision, with Roberts and Barrett siding with the liberal justices.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Shocker!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/09/trump-sentencing-supreme-court-new/

The Supreme Court will not intervene in Donald Trump’s New York hush money case.

5-4 decision, with Roberts and Barrett siding with the liberal justices.

He has 100 executive orders ready for his first day. I'll bet his henchmen are scratching their collective head now...

 

[Crimson1967]

If the people of Greenland want to leave Denmark and become an American territory I don’t really have a problem with it.

Greenland is actually part of North America from a geological perspective. It is bigger than Alaska but its population is about equal to that of Madison, the tenth largest city in the state by the 2020 census.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

If the people of Greenland want to leave Denmark and become an American territory I don’t really have a problem with it.

Greenland is actually part of North America from a geological perspective. It is bigger than Alaska but its population is about equal to that of Madison, the tenth largest city in the state by the 2020 census.

The opposition leader said that they had the possibility of obtaining much more in the way of defense and other benefits than they ever have from Denmark. I have one friend from Iceland. Iceland only obtained its independence from Denmark in 1944, but he still had resentments. He made the remark that you had to ask a Dane in order to take a crap. IOW, Greenland wanting a split from Denmark may have legs...

 

[crimsonaudio]

34x felon but receives zero punishment.

Truly our system is just!

CNN: Trump remains a felon but receives no penalty in sentence for hush money conviction. Catch up here

 

[jthomas666]

34x felon but receives zero punishment.

Truly our system is just!

CNN: Trump remains a felon but receives no penalty in sentence for hush money conviction. Catch up here

Sentence him to some time, and then defer the sentence until he's out of office.

Sure, he'll immediate pardon himself, and then we can get the SC to finally rule on whether a president can pardon himself (Spoiler Alert--They will say that Trump can pardon himself, but limit the ruling to only apply to Trump).

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Sentence him to some time, and then defer the sentence until he's out of office.

Sure, he'll immediate pardon himself, and then we can get the SC to finally rule on whether a president can pardon himself (Spoiler Alert--They will say that Trump can pardon himself, but limit the ruling to only apply to Trump).

Presidential pardons can't be issued for state convictions, only federal ones.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

34x felon but receives zero punishment.

Truly our system is just!

CNN: Trump remains a felon but receives no penalty in sentence for hush money conviction. Catch up here

Curious why the same jurisdiction didn’t charge Hillary Clinton for obfuscating payments to Christopher Steele. I mean, yeah she got caught and had to pay a fine to the FEC, but I'm still trying to figure out why one was a crime and one was not.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Curious why the same jurisdiction didn’t charge Hillary Clinton for obfuscating payments to Christopher Steele. I mean, yeah she got caught and had to pay a fine to the FEC, but I'm still trying to figure out why one was a crime and one was not.

You've already answered your own question - one was federal and one was state...

 

[crimsonaudio]

Sentence him to some time, and then defer the sentence until he's out of office.

Sure, he'll immediate pardon himself, and then we can get the SC to finally rule on whether a president can pardon himself (Spoiler Alert--They will say that Trump can pardon himself, but limit the ruling to only apply to Trump).

Weren't these state-level charges? If so, unless I'm mistaken, Trump wouldn't be able to pardon himself.

Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but I don't think he could have pardoned himself in this case.