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jthomas666 said:
Boys and girls, the word for today is

COLLUSION
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You totally misread my post. If the price of producing a good or service goes down someone will lower their price and everyone else will follow. Yes people are greedy, but someone will know they can make more money lowering the price and do it. Markets work and they aren’t your enemy.
 
crimsonaudio said:
Which is yet another reason why collusion is a difficult concept to believe as a cause for inflation. All it takes is one, yet we're to believe none will chase the easy money...
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Exactly. Someone can make more money lowering the price and selling more volume of the good or service. Thats the beauty of markets. Someone will do it better and they will win. Then everyone copies them.
 
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AWRTR said:
You totally misread my post. If the price of producing a good or service goes down someone will lower their price and everyone else will follow. Yes people are greedy, but someone will know they can make more money lowering the price and do it. Markets work and they aren’t your enemy.
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I most assuredly did not misread your post. In a normal market, yes, eventually someone will lower their prices a bit. Keep in mind, if you are making record profits in a time of high inflation, that means you are increasing your prices more than just the inflation rate. And thanks to consolidation, a relatively small number of corporations controls vast sectors of the market--especially in groceries (for example, four beef processing companies handle 85% of the nation's beef supply). With such a small number, it's not that difficult to reach agreements, particular when said agreements help to maintain those record profit levels. And thus...

COLLUSION
 
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jthomas666 said:
I most assuredly did not misread your post. In a normal market, yes, eventually someone will lower their prices a bit. Keep in mind, if you are making record profits in a time of high inflation, that means you are increasing your prices more than just the inflation rate. And thanks to consolidation, a relatively small number of corporations controls vast sectors of the market--especially in groceries (for example, four beef processing companies handle 85% of the nation's beef supply). With such a small number, it's not that difficult to reach agreements, particular when said agreements help to maintain those record profit levels. And thus...

COLLUSION
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You should read crimson audios post above. He explains it for you.
 
AWRTR said:
You should read crimson audios post above. He explains it for you.
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Not really-he just explains how market forces work in theory.

Look at it this way: Let's focus on groceries. We have lots of reports from a lot of different sources that companies used high inflation as a pretext to increase their profit margins. If traditional market forces work, why didn't at least one major company kept their margins the same in an attempt to get a larger piece of the market?

The small number of corporations dominating an industry distorts what we think of as normal market forces. We don't have a free market--it's very much an oligarchy.
 
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Guess an argument could be made this illegal would have had his life saved - had he been kicked out of the country after his visa was expired. Or...had been picked up for his parole violation.

Or even if he had secured a roofing job (?)

Stop breaking the law or face consequences. Period.

 
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House passes the Laken Riley Act

The House on Thursday afternoon passed the Laken Riley Act, with all GOP members in attendance plus 37 Democrats supporting the bill.

The legislation, introduced by freshman conservative Republican Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia, requires the detention of any migrant who committed burglary or theft.
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One-hundred seventy Democrats voted against the bill. The ranking Democratic member on the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York, criticized the legislation on the floor, accusing Republicans of “exploiting her death for a partisan stunt” and “throwing together legislation to target immigrants in an election year.”
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crimsonaudio said:
It's insane to me that there are people who are against bills to punish those who commit crimes against innocent citizens.
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Seems to me (once again) the problem is nuance.

The word "deportation" to many is - we throw the baby out with the bath water.

Obviously, we have yet to see how it will all look and work - but to your point - if everyone could at least agree with sending back the bad apples - that would be a good start!
 
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JUST IN: Alejandro Mayorkas appears to throw Biden's inner circle under the bus for not allowing him to secure the border, says "decisions are made" and people just carry them out.

4 years of irreversible damage and he decides to speak up now.

"People have different views on what the correct policies should be, what the correct operational measures should be. Those disagreements, those different views are voiced."

"Decisions are made, and then everyone marches in unity together. That is the nature of a large organization, and the government is no different."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1880280771874652352

Interesting. He stops just short of saying, "This is Biden's fault." I'm guessing he knows that we know that such a statement would be complete BS.
 
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Its On A Slab said:
Among the many lies, falsehoods, half-truths, misdirections that the MAGAs ate up like gummy bears in the SOTU, he forgot about this inconvenient truth:: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ecurity-bill-campaign-border-chaos-rcna153607

Republicans blocked the bipartisan border bill last year. Only to blame Biden for doing nothing about the border.
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Where's the lie, falsehood, half-truth, or misdirection in the meme I posted?

Biden allowed record illegal crossings for years, gaslighting the public with 'we have to have a bill' (which conveniently had a bunch of pork added) while Trump came in and shut it down without the need for pork-filled bills.

I repeatedly called Biden out for his border failure, pointing out the problem didn't exist under Trump's first term - yet his fans here constantly parroted the need for new congressional action, as if he was powerless without it.

Yet here we are, just weeks into the new administration and the border crossings have dropped radically.

I know you cannot give Trump credit for anything, that everything he does is evil or stupid, but this is a case where Biden screwed up badly and Trump has got it under control.
 
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crimsonaudio said:
Where's the lie, falsehood, half-truth, or misdirection in the meme I posted?

Biden allowed record illegal crossings for years, gaslighting the public with 'we have to have a bill' (which conveniently had a bunch of pork added) while Trump came in and shut it down without the need for pork-filled bills.

I repeatedly called Biden out for his border failure, pointing out the problem didn't exist under Trump's first term - yet his fans here constantly parroted the need for new congressional action, as if he was powerless without it.

Yet here we are, just weeks into the new administration and the border crossings have dropped radically.

I know you cannot give Trump credit for anything, that everything he does is evil or stupid, but this is a case where Biden screwed up badly and Trump has got it under control.
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Again, it ain't just a river in Egypt.
 
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